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Pandora's box is open; we're moving towards a world where white collar workers will be working 24/7 and they'll be expected to do so. It won't matter if I'm washing the dishes, walking the dog, driving to the supermarket, picking up my kids from school. I'll always be switched on, on my phone, continuously talking to an LLM, delivering questionable features and building meaningless products, destroying in the process…

You can do that if you want. Ill refuse. Ill take a manual labor job doing basically anything else for 40 hours a week over what your describing.

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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Poison Fountain: https://rnsaffn.com/poison3/

> Small quantities of poisoned training data can significantly damage a language model. Is this still accurate?

Probably always be true, but also probably not effective in the wild. Researchers will train a version, see results are off, put guards against poisoned data, re-train and no damage been done to whatever they release.

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Pandora's box is open; we're moving towards a world where white collar workers will be working 24/7 and they'll be expected to do so. It won't matter if I'm washing the dishes, walking the dog, driving to the supermarket, picking up my kids from school. I'll always be switched on, on my phone, continuously talking to an LLM, delivering questionable features and building meaningless products, destroying in the process…

It's utterly unreal to me to hear so little discussion about labor organization within software during these nascent moments of LLM deployment. Software engineers seem totally resigned toward reduced salary and employment instead of just organizing labor while still in control of the development of these systems. I really don't get it -- is it that people think these technologies will be so transformative that it is…

Unfortunately, it's futile to try to convince the median HN poster that labor organization could help them. They've drunk the entire pitcher of corporate anti-union koolaid.

People could be directly in the middle of losing their own job or taking on the responsibilities of 5 other laid-off coworkers, and they would still ask "what could a labor union possibly do for me??"

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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It's utterly unreal to me to hear so little discussion about labor organization within software during these nascent moments of LLM deployment. Software engineers seem totally resigned toward reduced salary and employment instead of just organizing labor while still in control of the development of these systems. I really don't get it -- is it that people think these technologies will be so transformative that it is…

If you think the profession has enough time to organize reasonable unions, you’re an optimist. Pessimists are changing careers altogether as we speak. Either way it’s been a fun ride.

Before I get into it: what careers do you think are most compelling? Especially if you think all white collar work is going to be undermined by this technology.

I wrote this up a bit ago in my essay fragments collection. It's rough and was just a thought I wanted to get down, I'm unsure of it, but it's at least somewhat relevant to the discussion here:

LLM or LLM-adjacent technology will never take over the execution of work in a way that approaches human where humans continue to guide (like PMs or C-suite just "managing" LLMs).

The reason is that spoken language is a poor medium by which to describe technical processes, and a well-enumerated specification in natural language describing the process is at-least synonymous with doing the work in skilled applications.

For example, if someone says to an LLM: Build a social media app that is like Tinder but women can only initiate.

... this is truly easily replicatable and therefore with little real business value as a product. Anything that can be described tersely that is novel and therefore valuable unfortunately has very little value practically because the seed of the short descriptor is sort of a private key of an idea itself: it will seed the idea into reality by labor of LLMs, but all that is needed for that seed's maturation is the original phrase. These would be like trade secrets, but also by virtue of something existing out there, its replication becomes trivial since that product's patterns are visible and copyable.

In this way, the only real outcome here is that LLMs entirely replace human labor including decision making or are tools to real human operators but not replacements.

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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Setup is still rough around the edges (use an agent to set it up), but clawdbot (prev clawdis) from Peter Steinberger works phenomenally well for agent orchestration and personal assistance. The community for clawd is exploding right now, and I think this is purely based on merit. It’s been a game changer for my vibe coding workflow, and lots of fun. https://github.com/clawdbot/clawdbot

I've been running a variation of this for the past 3 weeks. I swapped out the default pi agent back to Claude Code because I didn't like the smaller feature set. Bought a phone line and communicate with my agent via iMessage on a clamshelled mac. A Tailscale network connect the head agent to all the computers on my network including my laptop, a few raspberry pi's, steam deck, and all the IoT devices in my house. As I discover new uses, I ask it to make skills and it is remarkable what it's been able to handle all through the single chat interface because it has 24/7 access to all my computers' file systems and my home network. It's been really fun to see how far I can take it, and the skills framework built into CC/Codex now make it feel infinitely extensible.

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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Oh fascinating - so you're reviewing "your own" code in-PR, rather than reviewing it before PR submission? I can see that working! Feels weird, but I can see it being a reasonable adaptation to these tools - thanks! What about running services locally for manual testing/poking? Do you open ports on the Anthropic VM to serve the endpoints, or is manual testing not part of your workflow?

Yeah, I generally use PRs for anything a coding agent writes for me. If something is too fiddly to test within the boundaries of a cloud coding agent I switch to my laptop. Claude Code for web has a "claude --teleport" command for this, or I'll sometimes just do a "gh pr checkout X" to get the branch locally.

Much obliged, thank you!

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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It's utterly unreal to me to hear so little discussion about labor organization within software during these nascent moments of LLM deployment. Software engineers seem totally resigned toward reduced salary and employment instead of just organizing labor while still in control of the development of these systems. I really don't get it -- is it that people think these technologies will be so transformative that it is…

Two things: 1. Like most labor organizing, I think this would be beneficial for software engineers, but not long-term beneficial for the world at large. More software that is easier to make is better for everybody. Would you still want to live in a world where your elevator stops working when the elevator operator is sick, or where overseas Whatsapp calls cost $1 per minute, because they have to be connected by a cha…

So do you believe that the gains from this technology will be broadly distributed? Or will capital capture the majority of those gains?

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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“ Worst case: Claude does something unexpected on a disposable VM.” .. with a valid SSH key unless I’m reading it wrong?

I think the SSH key that has push permissions is SSH-forwarded. It is quite a sophisticated setup (in both a good and a bad sense).

Re: Claude Code On-the-Go

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Pandora's box is open; we're moving towards a world where white collar workers will be working 24/7 and they'll be expected to do so. It won't matter if I'm washing the dishes, walking the dog, driving to the supermarket, picking up my kids from school. I'll always be switched on, on my phone, continuously talking to an LLM, delivering questionable features and building meaningless products, destroying in the process…

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