yeah, I think that too - for me the -Ofun comes from HTMX https://htmx.org and the HARC stack https://harcstack.org so I can server side code in a my preferred programming language hint: not JS (with a helping of LLM on the side)
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#52Of course its fun. Making slop _is_ very fun. Its a low-effort dopamine-driven way of producing things. Learning is uncomfortable. Improving things using only your braincells can be very difficult and time consuming.
The rate at which I'm learning new skills has accelerated thanks to LLMs. Not learning anything while you use them is a choice. You can choose differently!
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If I describe the dish I want, and someone else makes it for me, I was still the catalyst for that dish. It would not have existed without me. So yes, I did "cook" it. The person who actually cooked it cooked it. Being the "catalyst" doesn't make you the creator, nor does it mean you get to claim that you did the work. Otherwise you could say you "cooked a meal" every time you went to MacDonald's.
Why is the head chef called the head chef, then? He doesn’t “cook”.
To differentiate him from the "cook", which is what we call those who carry out the actual act of cooking.
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Only it’s a bit like me getting back into cooking because I described the dish I want to a trainee cook.
Isn't that still considered cooking? If I describe the dish I want, and someone else makes it for me, I was still the catalyst for that dish. It would not have existed without me. So yes, I did cook it.
Work harder!
Now I’m a life coach because I’m responsible for your promotion.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes! I’ve seen this myself, folks moving back into development after years or decades.
Only it’s a bit like me getting back into cooking because I described the dish I want to a trainee cook.
Depends on how you're using the LLMs. It can also be like having someone else around to chop the onions, wash the pans and find the ingredients when you need them.
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#57Of course its fun. Making slop _is_ very fun. Its a low-effort dopamine-driven way of producing things. Learning is uncomfortable. Improving things using only your braincells can be very difficult and time consuming.
The OP is not talking about making slop, he's talking about using AI to write good code.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If I describe the dish I want, and someone else makes it for me, I was still the catalyst for that dish. It would not have existed without me. So yes, I did "cook" it. The person who actually cooked it cooked it. Being the "catalyst" doesn't make you the creator, nor does it mean you get to claim that you did the work. Otherwise you could say you "cooked a meal" every time you went to MacDonald's.
Why is the head chef called the head chef, then? He doesn’t “cook”.
The difference is that the head chef can cook very well and could do a better job of the dish than the trainee.
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#60Not the first time I can't access a link posted here due being blocked in Spain.
Are you using your ISP DNS? I’m in Spain as well and I can access the link just fine.
I'm using Cloudflare's.
I don't know how this blocking works. A couple minutes ago I could access this link but now I can't. It's happening with another website too. It's like an intermittent blocking today.