Politics aside: If this is all true and was a snatch and grab, it will go down as one of the most impressive military operations in the 21st century.
imo this was negotiated, we need more details
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#232Pre 2014 no Russian person would directly wish/hope/wait for the annexation of Crimea. Surely some fanatics and crazies existed, but society at large didn't "need" it. One person made a decision. And that started a 11+ years of propaganda, political acrobatics, war, manipulation of the masses, etc etc etc. Lots of things that are good for that one person to be able to stay in power. Back to Venezuela and Trump - it's…
> If he finds an enemy he can keep fighting for a long time - he will stay president for all that time
I don't think any latin american country can withstand the US for any amount of time, unless it turns into a guerilla war.
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#233So correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems like a new kind of crime committed by the US? We've been involved in a lot of regime change operations but I can't think of one where we just straight up kidnap a foreign head of state and bring them to the US. I guess Saddam Hussein but that was after we caused the collapse? Is the goal now to just put Maduro through a televised sham trial as a new cover for the Trump admin…
> we just straight up kidnap a foreign head of state
Head of state according to whom?
>Is the goal now to just put Maduro through a televised sham trial as a new cover for the Trump admin?
Would they really need a sham trial?
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#234So correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems like a new kind of crime committed by the US? We've been involved in a lot of regime change operations but I can't think of one where we just straight up kidnap a foreign head of state and bring them to the US. I guess Saddam Hussein but that was after we caused the collapse? Is the goal now to just put Maduro through a televised sham trial as a new cover for the Trump admin…
It has been presented as a law enforcement action to bring a wanted criminal to justice. What do you mean by “televised sham trial”? Are you suggesting the US manufactured evidence?
Have you considered this is part of a negotiated exit?
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#235This is illegal, immoral and not supported by the vast majority of the country. Every us citizen and every elected official needs to act, now, to stop this.
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#237Non-USA citizen here. What's going on?
I just woke up to this madness, and have heard nothing about it prior to today. Has this come as a surprise to everyone in the USA too, or were there murmurings leading up to it? What was the reason given? I'm presuming there was _something_, even if it was clearly nonsense?
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#239So the US can just fly into a country and kidnap it's president and his wife at will now? Just because Donald Trump feels like it. And most Americans will somehow praise and love it.
What the hell? I hate getting too political because it ends up so toxic and divisive, but with what logic is this not insane?
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#240Notice the hypocrisy of the "explosions reported" title instead of "US bombs Venezuela".
no, that makes sense. It's probably too soon to be sure what has happened. This is why we need actual journalists and not just tiktok and yt commentators