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Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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These are not mistakes. These are not implementation errors or miscommunication between different business units. What you are witnessing is an intentional setting of a revenue dial to the maximum allowable setting that still permits the original sale.

A console is a computer controlled by a corporation. No other result could be expected.

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Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #344

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Go type this into perplexity: "Are there any health studies about what exposure to pornography does to childhood development?" Here's another good one: "Are there any health studies about what exposure to violence or horror does to childhood development?" There is a reason that rating systems exist and that we shelter children from these things. The pre-rebuttal that you posted "this was common in my childhood" is no…

That's an even weaker argument: AI and ratings. Ratings are very criticized by artists, eg as being fueled by conservative moms. For example, in the USA, movies with guns and explosion can be shown to younger audiences than nudity - seems very illogical. Also, some anecdotes: lots of my friends were into GTA as kids, ie early teens, and turned out fine. Comparing to kids who didn't do so well, I consider the most imp…

Okay. Society isn’t asking you to police how parents choose to parent. Not like this. It is reasonable for someone to want to be able to buy something advertised as having a certain feature without it being implemented with malicious deception. Nobody wants to have the “are bideo games good or bad?” debate again.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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My dad says the same thing about seatbelts.

I was against mandatory seatbelt laws at first because I disliked the intrusion. That was it. My entire argument was (and I emphasize WAS) that I didn't like no gubment tell me what to do. If I wanted to be a damn fool and kill myself why would they care? It's a stupid act to try to outlaw stupidity. Then I found out that seatbelt laws are actually about decreasing the financial burden of underinsured accident victim…

I’d strongly encourage you to spend an iota of time outside the US.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #209

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I would easily believe that Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc., explicitly staff these teams with childless adults.

Given how easy it is for my 13yo daughter to get around screen time restrictions on iOS in ways I wouldn't believe are possible I'm not sure these people are even adults.

How does she get around the restrictions? I'm not aware of a way to do that on iPhone

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #279
post #223

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Particularly American? What does that mean? That parents in other countries are better than us? That they have more time, more know how, more wisdom? Sorry but that's stupid and insulting, which I suspect was your intent.

Not necessarily better, just less controlling. E.g. in Germany there exists an imperative to give children freedom despite dangers. Parents don't expect from themselves to be able to shield their chidren from all possible dangers either. Not sure if it's better, but it's a different parenting culture for sure. It mostly extends to interactions in the physical world though - restricting children's use of digital devic…

America is a huge place. You can't sample some professional city full of helicopter parents.

More nights than not, I have random neighborhood kids playing in my yard and eating dinner with us. Their parents don't seem to care, and neither do I. But I don't live in SF or NY, either. I don't mean to insinuate those cities are worse, I don't know, but cannot figure out where else that trope would come from.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #285

This pervasive desire to block, protect, monitor, and control your children's online activities through nebulous supervision tools seems like a particularly American solution to a particularly American problem. Much like how little Timmy simply can't go out to play without a GPS anklet and an air tag behind each ear, so too can't he go online without a supervised account on a supervised device on a supervised connect…

Honest question: are you a parent? My daughter, when she was 6 or 7, was terrified by certain things she accidentally found on YouTube, and asked me to have them filtered out. At 13, she already didn't need that, of course, but the notion of "kids" includes "small kids" , who definitely should not be exposed to everything the Internet has to offer, or let to go out unsupervised.

I'm a parent of a 12 and a 6 year old and agree with what was written completely. "I do not feel in control" is to me a strange thing to say. Running after kids trying to save them is a losing battle. Instead they need to be equipped to make decisions on their own. If they are not ready for something, they should not use it. I cannot prepare them to drive a car, so I will certainly not buy them a Tesla self driving car and then complain it's inadequate.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #209

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Given how easy it is for my 13yo daughter to get around screen time restrictions on iOS in ways I wouldn't believe are possible I'm not sure these people are even adults.

How does she get around the restrictions? I'm not aware of a way to do that on iPhone

Change the region. Not time and date, that can be blocked by screentime. Change the region. Sometimes takes multiple attempts but it does work. I had to pay a bug bounty to my child to get them to tell me how they did it

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #252

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Gun ownership isn't a terrible example honestly. I would have been probably 8 or so when I was allowed to traipse around in the woods near my dad's house with a BB gun, following extensive safety teaching of course. We would go out in the yard and shoot a shotgun and a rifle around that same age. People are probably not careful enough with guns right now in America given the stats, but it's not at all unreasonable in…

Maybe the analogy here is you can buy only one kind of gun. That gun can load any ammunition. It’s easy for children to get their hands on anything from bb’s to BMG50. The gun has parental controls to allow selecting which ammunition the gun will accept. It’s up to the parents to decipher the difference between all the types, and the out-of-box default is all types are allowed. Some commenters admonish parents for tr…

I think a car analogy would work better. I live in a civilised country and nether I nor my kids have access to guns ..

For example Nintendo:

The kids have access to the family car. It will allow anyone to drive it when they select a destination by speaking while sitting in the car. The car is unlocked by default.

No way exists to limit destinations to their friends or relatives. "Drugs" takes the kids to the nearest drug dealer. "Alcohol" drives the kid to the nearest store and allows the kid to buy alcohol without any ID check.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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post #304

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I think someone who is 22 was 17 in the not that distant past. Apple hires talent, they don't care about anything else. Again, I am speaking to things I know from my actual life and people I know in the physical world.

> Apple hires talent, they don't care about anything else. Again, I am speaking to things I know from my actual life and people I know in the physical world. How many people do they hire without college degrees? I am legitimately asking. I understand that was a thing in the tech world decades ago but my understanding was that big tech’s idea of “talent” has evolved to include mandatory education credentials like at l…

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