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post #112

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Russian does not use the Latin alphabet

Oh! Okay. I’m not an expert, but the depth of information here appears to disagree? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Latin_alphabet

Transliteration is certainly a thing but it's only ever used as a last resort when you really have to pass Russian text through a system that only supports the Latin alphabet, or when you can't input Cyrillic for some other reason. It used to be somewhat common for SMS 20+ years ago.

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Муч лике хов Ю кан/кулд спел Енглиш ин Кирилик.. but who in their right mind actually does that?

Palm Treo/Pre and BlackBerry users! And probably Clicks users too. It's not a matter of "Does Russian language use the Latin script?" (it doesn't), but rather "What is the least annoying method to input Cyrillic on a BB-style keyboard, which doesn't have enough buttons for the йцукен layout?". Phonetic layouts such as яверты or яшерты were very popular for such devices back in the day.

I’m considering the linked-above device to replace my mom’s Q10 later this year, so this is a specifically helpful answer for me — thanks!

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I had the Unihertz Titan for a while . It was a fun experiment, but I ultimately found it too annoying for continued daily use First, typing was actually slower and more error prone. Even nearly a year into owning it, I was constantly misclicking and spending loads of time correcting myself. Second, you loose a ton of navigate functionality with the hardware keyboards. Holding space to navigate between characters is…

As for the typing itself, just curious, were you a Blackberry user in the past? I was for 15+ years, but I've never used a Unihertz. But my typing experience was always running circles around every poor soul with a touch keyboard. As to the rest - I owned one of every model of BlackBerry's Android PKB phones and none of this was an issue, so I'd say a lot of it may be Unihertz's execution. Losing navigation functiona…

Yes, I was. I had a physical-keyboard phone for as long as I reasonably could.

What I realized is modern soft-keyboards are actually exceptionally good handling slight miss-clicks. I stopped worrying about hitting the key exactly and just punched it close enough. Auto-correct seems able to figure out that 5% off of a key should be weighed as that key being hit and gets the word right.

With a hard keyboard, I'd just end up with total garbage sometimes.

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I'm interested in getting that standalone magsafe Clicks keyboard they also announced. I have the original Clicks keyboard case for my iPhone 15 and almost never use it because of how goofy the size is + I dislike hate that soft touch plastic that gets stuck in my pocket. The slide out keyboard looks way more appealing in comparison. Not sure how people lived using the keyboard case with any plus sized iPhone-- It's basically a weapon!

Re: Clicks Communicator

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post #112

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Russian does not use the Latin alphabet

Oh! Okay. I’m not an expert, but the depth of information here appears to disagree? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Latin_alphabet

If you had read the link you posted you would know those are various historic proposals for language reforms not something that's widely used. Same way there have been various proposals for English spelling reforms. That's not the normal way for writing or reading Russian. Russian uses Cyrilic alphabet which if anything is closer to Greek alphabet than Latin. There are other slavic langauges which actually use Latin based scripts. If you don't read Russian it might look like some of the letters look similar but that's only less than half of alphabet and from those half have completely different meaning than Latin lookalikes.

Yes there are various schemes for transliterating Russian into latin script, which people occasionally use for various reasons like typing on a computer or phone which hasn't been fully configured for use with Russian language, in contexts where unicode isn't supported or to make street signs legible for tourists. That's different from the "Russian Latin alphabet". In most cases where proper Cyrillic is problematic dedicated "Russian Latin alphabet" that's based on Latin with extra diacritic marks would also be problematic.

Similar thing could be said about other languages like Japanese or Chinese, but I don't think anyone would describe them as "languages that use the Latin alphabet".

As for typing on keyboard the main Russian layout is nothing like qwerty. Computer keyboards sold in relevant regions often have dual labels. I personally never learned touch typing in Cyrillic and use the phonetic layout in the rare cases I need to do so since for me it was a second foreign language.

Which exact approach Click chose - who knows. Will it be possible to choose your preferred Russian layout like on a desktop computer? Likely not. If they supported that I would have expect them to also add layouts for more languages. Although maybe they didn't want to promise anything for languages for which they don't have OS UI translations.

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post #136

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As for the typing itself, just curious, were you a Blackberry user in the past? I was for 15+ years, but I've never used a Unihertz. But my typing experience was always running circles around every poor soul with a touch keyboard. As to the rest - I owned one of every model of BlackBerry's Android PKB phones and none of this was an issue, so I'd say a lot of it may be Unihertz's execution. Losing navigation functiona…

Not the person you're replying to, but I was a big BB user in the 2000s and had the Blackberry Passport briefly in 2015 to test its Android app compatibility (it was pretty damn compatible!). What I discovered was that the best BB keyboards for error-free typing were the curved 4-row keyboards on the Bold 9000, 9700 and 9900. The Passport kb was flat, rectangular and only had 3 rows over a very wide layout and placed…

miss the bold 9000 so much

it sounds like there is a slow and steady open source community around either replacement q20 keyboards, or a reverse-engineered one? https://hackaday.com/2025/06/04/the-blackberry-keyboard-how-...

and the beepy, which runs linux and for some reason has the keyboard blurred out on its homepage https://beepy.sqfmi.com/

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yes, it can run IG and Tiktok, but you'll have a bad experience due to the screen aspect ratio, and small screen size the power user base you mention is probably too small to sustain them long term

Genuine question, why would a none power user want a physical keyboard on their phone? Or from the other side, why would the digital detox, second device crowd go for a fully featured Android phone with a color AMOLED with all the temptations that brings over a smartwatch or black and white screened device?

some people type a lot, chatting, writing emails

not sure if that makes them a power user

why do you equate second device with digital detox?

what happened to use the best tool for the job? use a phone with a physical keyboard when chatting on WhatsApp and then switch to a regular phone for Instagram and browsing web. not saying everybody should do this but if chatting is your life...

some people even use a phone and a laptop at the same time, they are already a second device person, so they could be a three device person

Re: Clicks Communicator

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The Communicator is interesting but why are they marketing this as a "second" phone? I can see buying this as a primary but who is really looking for a phone they carry specifically as a backup for when they want a keyboard?

The primary use case that I can see is following: you use your second phone — the communicator — to chat, while watching endless stream of tiktoks/reels/shorts on the first one.

Re: Clicks Communicator

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The Communicator is interesting but why are they marketing this as a "second" phone? I can see buying this as a primary but who is really looking for a phone they carry specifically as a backup for when they want a keyboard?

At 3:45 in the launch video they give their "reasoning" saying "companion devices are on the rise" like using a smart watch and a smart ring (who does this?), or a tablet and a phone.

But... Two phones?

Everyone I've ever known with two phones has been embarassed to have to have the second one.

It's DOA.

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