Live data from Hacker News

Parental controls aren't for parents

beasthacker.com

261–270 of 476 posts

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#261

Just recently did this with XBox. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing the marketplace. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing installed games that are rated Mature. It won't let them play it, but it lists all the games installed in the XBox. I cannot prevent them from downloading free stuff. It was frustrating and clear to me that this wasn't designed for the benefits of parents. I just want it to act like a console w…

Question: why do you give the device access to the internet?

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#262
post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given how easy it is for my 13yo daughter to get around screen time restrictions on iOS in ways I wouldn't believe are possible I'm not sure these people are even adults.

Apple has an engineering base that includes people who were recently children. Think about it that way: why would they make things harder for who they were in the very recent past.

> Apple has an engineering base that includes people who were recently children.

What?

I didn’t realize Apple with in the habit of hiring people straight out of high school instead of after going through enough university education that ends up with candidates in their early to mid 20s

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#263
post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Building 29 separate settings with confusing and overlapping effects is less work than making a single setting of: [Local Only]? Seems to be a much larger amount of work to design, implement, and support a more-or-less dozen-step customer journey that does NOT work than just implementing a few switches. And that goes even if the switch must be designed-in from the beginning by designing operation for local-only opera…

>> Building 29 separate settings with confusing and overlapping effects is less work than making a single setting of: [Local Only]? Yes, absolutely. 29 separate overlapping settings likely match up precisely to arguments in various APIs that are used. On the other hand, what does local only even mean? No wifi? No hardwired connection? LAN only? Connection to the internet for system updates but not marketplace? Someth…

Having a separate setting for unconditionally disabling all wireless communication would be helpful. The other stuff you mention can be separate settings if it is useful to have them. (A setting to unconditionally all disable wired connections is less important since you can just avoid connecting it.)

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#264
post #8

Last time I checked disney plus doesn't have any option to hide specific shows. None. You either let your child watch everything, or nothing. At least netflix allows me to hide certain shows...

It's even worse if your subscription is packaged with Hulu. Then all the Hulu kids stuff gets pulled in automatically, which includes all kinds of garbage that I very much do not want my daughter watching. All the YouTube-based influencer kid shows with little kids who show off new toys and extravagant vacations each episode. My only solution was to unsubscribe from Hulu, which stinks because they do have some good stuff. It really is the epitome of enshitification considering how easy it would be to implement a block button at the very least.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#265
post #261

Just recently did this with XBox. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing the marketplace. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing installed games that are rated Mature. It won't let them play it, but it lists all the games installed in the XBox. I cannot prevent them from downloading free stuff. It was frustrating and clear to me that this wasn't designed for the benefits of parents. I just want it to act like a console w…

Question: why do you give the device access to the internet?

Based on another comment parent made, the Xbox was there before the kid, so presumably they don't want to handicap their own experience using it, just limit their kid's. Which should, by all respects, be a reasonable thing to want.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#266
post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Question: why do you give the device access to the internet?

Based on another comment parent made, the Xbox was there before the kid, so presumably they don't want to handicap their own experience using it, just limit their kid's. Which should, by all respects, be a reasonable thing to want.

Microsoft really needs to let parents have their cake, too.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#267
I see folks saying no access to phones until 16, and others arguing how that will absolutely crush a kid's ability to do stuff socially. Why not just have a 'home' phone? you can use the phone in shared spaces at home, but cannot take it into your room or go to school with it.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#268
post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm kind of with you on this one. 12yo is old enough to understand the rules (assuming they were clearly set ) and if he/she was willingly communicating with a stranger, that phone should get the hammer with no replacement whatsoever. I've seen this done, it works.

Kids make mistakes. You do not want predators to use the threat of your punishment as a lever on your kid.

If you apply this concept broadly you will see this isnt a great philosophy.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#269
post #261

Just recently did this with XBox. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing the marketplace. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing installed games that are rated Mature. It won't let them play it, but it lists all the games installed in the XBox. I cannot prevent them from downloading free stuff. It was frustrating and clear to me that this wasn't designed for the benefits of parents. I just want it to act like a console w…

Question: why do you give the device access to the internet?

Sounds like the parent(s) use it as well

> I cannot prevent the kid from seeing installed games that are rated Mature.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

#270
post #261

Just recently did this with XBox. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing the marketplace. I cannot prevent the kid from seeing installed games that are rated Mature. It won't let them play it, but it lists all the games installed in the XBox. I cannot prevent them from downloading free stuff. It was frustrating and clear to me that this wasn't designed for the benefits of parents. I just want it to act like a console w…

Question: why do you give the device access to the internet?

Because I too use the XBox.

And because there are definitely benefits of Internet access. Saved games, for example.

But yeah, fair point. I should configure router to selectively enable/disable access to that device while the kid uses it to see how usable it is. It may just be good enough for his games

Post reply on HN