Also on my soapbox it's an absolute absurdity that we still do not have any HPV test for men.
HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
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Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#192I don’t get it. Everyone online gives advice like “Ask your doctor to get the vaccine even if you’re male” but the pharmacies here in SF refused to give it to me. They said that it’s not indicated for a 35+ yo male. So I get the theory of this thing. But has anyone actually tried this? Finally I got OneMedical to prescribe it for me for some $1.2k at which point I decided I’ll just get it abroad during some planned t…
How did you know you were going to have girls?
If you want to read more: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/IVF
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is done less routinely, usually under assumption that since it is women who are mostly at risk, why bother testing men. Which is horrible mindset in anything related to epidemiology. No. The general reason that people don't do the test for men is that DNA testing is extremely sensitive, and produces a lot of false positives for a virus that is widespread. It's also not actionable. You can't treat an asymptomatic…
The claim I refuted is that there are no test for men (there are). Not sure why you want to get needlessly argumentative here, repeating things I already linked (sic!). Sure, test from penis has lower specificity and sensitivity that for cervix, but it is not binary "works or not" (as side note, just measuring from urethra is rarely enough [1]). Life is probability, and it is a huge fallacy to believe that things wor…
You keep saying things in these sub threads that are factually incorrect in some important way that hides nuance, or otherwise seems calculated to provoke outrage. This was another example, which I why I replied here.
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would happily pay for Shingrix.
Prepare your happy for a very profit-laden high three-figure bill.
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
A question for your doctor and your partner (and of course, you can read the data in the link I posted above and use that to influence your conversation and decision!) I'm not being avoidant here -- medical decisions are always subjective and multi-factor, and I can't begin to tell you what you should do. (But I also sincerely believe that propagandists try to reduce nuanced data to talking points, which is equally w…
I usually am pro vaccine. But the HPV vaccine discussion seems politicized to me. As someone who is monogamous and over fifty, I had trouble following the risk vs reward discussion. The CDC says it is only recommended for young adults so I interpret that for my case the answer is negative.
The initial data says you should vaccinate somewhere around 12-14 year old girls because most of them will be HPV naive but if you wait longer they won't be any more. But too many US parents cannot imagine their little girl ever having sex and if they never have sex they almost certainly won't contract HPV so, why are we vaccinating them? Are you trying to make my daughter a slut?
If you've been a teenage American this should strike you as very silly, and doubly so if you understand biology. Teenage girls are not, in fact, celibate by default, so some of them will get horny. And if you understand biology the viral infections aren't caused by the same mechanism as pregnancy "sexual activity" is a shorthand, you can easily get infected while steering clear of anything that would get somebody knocked up. A peck on grandma's cheek is unlikely to work, but if you're sucking face for most of a Stranger Things episode that's definitely enough that you might contract HPV.
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#196Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
e-boks sends a text message to the phone, so I see it much faster than a paper mail. e-boks is like gmail (and others) in that it keeps your old mail. So you can easily find old stuff, a great improvement on paper mail. I don't even check my physical mailbox once a week. Denmark is one of the very most digital countries. Physical mail is very much on the way out. We no longer has mailboxes to send mail, you have to g…
Thats all besides the point. Which was that e-boks is not making vaccine programs possible or successful.
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
A question for your doctor and your partner (and of course, you can read the data in the link I posted above and use that to influence your conversation and decision!) I'm not being avoidant here -- medical decisions are always subjective and multi-factor, and I can't begin to tell you what you should do. (But I also sincerely believe that propagandists try to reduce nuanced data to talking points, which is equally w…
I usually am pro vaccine. But the HPV vaccine discussion seems politicized to me. As someone who is monogamous and over fifty, I had trouble following the risk vs reward discussion. The CDC says it is only recommended for young adults so I interpret that for my case the answer is negative.
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This statistic seems to be used by some people to avoid the vaccine The FDA itself restricted access to the vaccine on the basis of age. Given that virions aren't even involved in the production process, its safety should have been deemed good enough for the entire population early on.
The reason it's not recommended for all ages is money. Not safety concerns. Same reason you can't get Shingrix under a certain age.
Re: HPV vaccination reduces oncogenic HPV16/18 prevalence from 16% to <1% in Denmark
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
I fail to see how e-boks makes this work. Younger people check their e-boks less frequently than average, so sending a physical letter to their address would work just as well if not better. What makes it work is the public registers.
e-boks sends a text message to the phone, so I see it much faster than a paper mail. e-boks is like gmail (and others) in that it keeps your old mail. So you can easily find old stuff, a great improvement on paper mail. I don't even check my physical mailbox once a week. Denmark is one of the very most digital countries. Physical mail is very much on the way out. We no longer has mailboxes to send mail, you have to g…