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Re: Linux is good now

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Post by stavros »

logicchains wrote: post #582
asymons wrote: post #480

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league of legends is basically the only thing holding me back from switching to Linux for myself :/ really want to just swap over to linux fully. love your website + house!

Great excuse to start learning DOTA. You won't regret it (until a few thousand hours of gameplay later you realise how much of your life you wasted on it).

I mean, of course he'll regret it, as he probably regrets learning LoL. But yes, DotA is the better game of the two, according to my objective opinion.

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Post by stavros »

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #606
chmod775 wrote: post #524

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Some would consider not being able to play that game a feature!

You might be saying it in jest, but I think there may be something to this line of thinking. Whenever I read about anything on HN and bazzite comes up, it feels like the beginning of a new holy war is approaching. I am starting to wonder if the concern from the 'older' linux crowd is that the gamers will introduce changes to linux that will corrupt it more than systemd ever could ( like kernel level drm in games ).

I think the GP means because the game is a time sink, but you raise an interesting point. I wanted to say "that'll never happen", but someone could fork Linux, add DRM, and then that becomes massively popular and we're done.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by crabmusket »

b112 wrote: post #617
reincarnate0x14 wrote: post #341

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I recently heard that Star Citizen of all things, still in eternal development hell, runs really well on Linux. Also, amazing house, my friend is enamored of the cat-transit. I used to live not too far from you :)

cat-transit You cannot say such things without more info. I envision cats sitting on small trollies.

https://lanparty.house/#catwalk

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by bee_rider »

krupan wrote: post #481
coppsilgold wrote: post #241

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Competent cheat makers don't have much difficulty in defeating in-kernel anticheats on Windows. With the amount of insight and control available on Linux anticheat makers stand little chance. The best Valve could do is offer a special locked down kernel with perhaps some anticheat capabilities and lock down the hardware with attestation. If they offer the sources and do verified builds it might even be accepted by so…

Not a gamer, but it seems like super competitive games should be played on locked down consoles not custom-built PCs where the players have full control? Also, for more casual play, don't players have rankings so that you play with others about your level? Cheaters would alll end up just playing with other cheaters in that case, wouldn't they?

This console idea would also be better for truly competitive games, because players should have a level playing field in terms of framerates.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by Terr_ »

asymons wrote: post #480
kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

league of legends is basically the only thing holding me back from switching to Linux for myself :/ really want to just swap over to linux fully. love your website + house!

Moved everything over a few months ago, and I still have a game or two that requires Windows... but so far dual-booting has been more than enough.

In some ways, the minor barrier is almost beneficial, in terms of clearly separating work-time and play-time.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by Alconicon »

Gaming should be a no brainer. Windows dual boot and license is cheap enough.

Windows for gaming, Ubuntu as desktop default, Arch Linux on Laptop, MacOS on the other Laptop.

Games are not the problem, but that one game i want to play on a saturday evening when i have time, is the problem. That one i haven't tried out yet.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by badgersnake »

MegaDeKay wrote: post #288
fooker wrote: post #111

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The last remaining roadblock is kernel level anti-cheat frameworks. Pretty horrible technology, and unfortunately a good majority of the gaming industry by revenue relies on it.

I'd say there are two remaining roadblocks. First and biggest is kernel level anti-cheat frameworks as you point out. But there's also no open source HDMI 2.1 implementation allowed by the HDMI cartel so people like me with an AMD card max out at 4K60 even for open source games like Visual Pinball (unless you count an adapter with hacked firmware between the card and the display). NVidia and Intel get away with it be…

I don’t understand why they can’t support AMDPort 2.1 which coincidentally has the same connector and protocol.

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Post by ahartmetz »

kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

It keeps surprising me how many people don't care about some of the most popular games today. I mean I don't care about Battlefield or League of Legends neither, but in earlier decades of PC gaming, almost everyone had some of the most popular games. Doom, Half-Life (1 + 2) and such.

The games market today seems more similar to music in its fragmentation.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by joe200 »

argsnd wrote: post #336
kentonv wrote: post #328

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Debian... mostly just because it's what I'm most familiar with. I don't have strong opinions on distros.

I find that Fedora hits the right balance of stability while being up to date for anything desktop and specifically gaming focused, Debian has different priorities and packages can be a bit too old. And it’s less of a faff than Arch.

You are comparing Fedora with Debian stable. Everyone who wants to have Debian stability (and ecosystem) with the most new upstream software should go for Debian Testing (and don't be fooled by the name "testing" !). Debian Stable is for servers, Debian Testing is for desktops. Just try Debian Testing (and I used Slack, Red Hat, Ubuntu, Debian)

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by siikanen »

kentonv wrote: post #345
LeoPanthera wrote: post #338

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But you use it for games, right? So I figured you'd pick one based on how well it runs Steam. (And maybe for GPU drivers.)

Steam supports Debian well. I download the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia. Their installer script is actually pretty decent and then I don't have to worry about whether the distro packages are up-to-date.

I'm curious why bot just boot SteamOS? I'd imagine that being the easiest way to go
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