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Re: Linux is good now

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Post by kentonv »

bloating8731 wrote: post #463
kentonv wrote: post #242

I switched all the machines at https://lanparty.house over to Linux a couple months ago. So far, we've experienced noticeably fewer problems on Linux compared to Windows. Stability and performance are better. I can't think of one game we tried that didn't work. And wow is it nice not to have all the ads and crapware in our faces anymore. (I'm aware that Battlefield series and League of Legends won't work due to draco…

Does this mean the GitHub repo linked with the scripts now include up to date linux versions? Last time I looked it was all windows specific, but I'd love to setup something similar with stations for (much lower power) versions.

Sorry, I haven't gotten around to updating it yet, although it basically works to follow the same instructions except replace Windows with Linux and skip all the workarounds for Windows-specific bugs.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by krzyk »

tapoxi wrote: post #366
mcv wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does AMD not support Display Port? I'm not an expert on this, but that sounds to me like the superior technology.

TVs don't support displayport, so it makes Linux PCs like the Steam Machine inferior console replacements if you want high refresh rates. A lot of TVs now support 4K/120hz with VRR, the PS5 and Xbox Series X also support those modes. (Some games support 120, but it's also used to present a 40hz image in a 120hz container to improve input latency for games that can't hit 60 at high graphics quality.)

Do consoles support anything above 60 FPS?

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by throw2312321 »

philajan wrote: post #484
willis936 wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hyprland is a fun spectacle, but takes insane effort to make remotely livable. Also any apparent shortcut (dotfiles) will do nasty damage to your install. Anyone hypr-curious should sandbox in an install they don't mind wiping.

I’m really curious about your experience, what distro you used hyprland on, what dotfiles did damage to your install etc. I just installed hyprland yesterday and outside of having to switch back to i3 once to install what they had set for a terminal in their default config(kitty), I haven’t had to leave again.

What does hyprland offer over i3?

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by zaptheimpaler »

ThatPlayer wrote: post #491
zaptheimpaler wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last I checked, even the best ones that are high quality don't support VRR.

A recent one seems to work with VRR: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1pkdfcm/ugree... DP1.4 though, so you're still going to need compression.

Wow that's awesome work in that post! I've also bought a few things from UGreen now, they're great.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by SilentM68 »

Linux is the best. Been using it since Slackware, RedHat first came out, now use Ubuntu or any distro which makes it easy to interact with its Desktop, e.g. GNOME :)

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by kqr »

One thing I'm curious about: how is the laptop dual-GPU situation these days?

I opted to install Linux in a VM under Hyper-V on Windows to avoid hassles with the dual GPUs in my ThinkPad P52, but this comes with several other hassles I'd like to avoid. (Like no GPU access in Linux at all...)

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by theshackleford »

tombert wrote: post #243
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #10

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Gaming now works better on Linux than it does on Windows. This must be upsetting for Microsoft, but it was their game to lose.

Proton has gotten so good now that I don't even bother checking compatibility before buying games. Granted, I don't play online games, so that might change things, but for years I used to have to make a concession that "yeah Windows is better for games...", but in the last couple years that simply has not been true. Games seem to run better on Linux than Windows, and I don't have to deal with a bunch of Microsoft adv…

> At this point, the only valid excuses to stay on Windows, in my opinion

I didn’t see a performance increase moving to Linux for the vast majority of titles tested. Certainly not enough to outweigh the fact that I want EVERY game to work out of the box, and to never have to think if it will or won’t. And not all of my games did, and a not insignificant number needed serious tweaking to get working right.

I troubleshoot Linux issues all day long, I’ve zero interest in ever having to do it in my recreation time.

That’s a good enough reason for me to keep my windows box around.

I use Linux and OSX for everything that isn’t games, but windows functions just fine for me as a dumb console and I don’t seem to suffer any of these extreme and constant issues HN users seem to have with it from either a performance or reliability standpoint.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by duttish »

keyringlight wrote: post #282
duttish wrote: post #170

I've been on Linux desktop for ages, but it's not quite stable enough that I can recommend it to anyone. Space Marine 2 was the first game in quite a while than didn't just work out of the box, but... E.g three weeks ago nvidia pushed bad drivers which broke my desktop after a reboot and I had to swap display (ctrl-alt-f3 etc), I never got into gnome at all, and roll back to an earlier version. Automatic rollback of…

It might depend on the distro, but were you running a 10 series or earlier? They dropped Pascal and earlier CPUs with the v590 driver, I know Arch migrated what the nvidia package installed in such a way that could leave someone without an appropriate driver unless they manually moved to a different source. Then again Arch is one of those distros that has the attitude that you need to be a little engaged/responsible…

I'm on bog standard Ubuntu (25.04 maybe?) because it's what I know and I don't really care about it as long as it works. Which... well, seems above :}

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by system2 »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #234
system2 wrote: post #47

Linux is not suitable for the average user. I use Xubuntu on all my old computers, but I am 100% sure a normie would not tolerate the tedium of it. People want shiny icons with animations and a bunch of garbage on their computers to make them feel they are doing something. Linux is too static for that. If I have an issue with an application or if I want an application, I must use the terminal. I can't imagine a Mac u…

Outdated view. Regular people ask for help at the genius bar or IT poindexter all the time. And pretty icons are plentiful.

I bet you $100 you can't find a single person on the street using Linux. It is that rare.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by kderbe »

Steve Burke from GamersNexus tested eight games from their benchmark suite on Linux last month. Although his conclusion was generally positive, there were problems with nearly every game:

- F1 2024 didn't load due to anti-cheat

- Dragon's Dogma 2 and Resident Evil 4 had non-functional raytracing

- Cyberpunk 2077 with raytracing on consistently crashes when reloading a save game

- Dying Light 2 occasionally freezes for a whole minute

- Starfield takes 25 minutes to compile shaders on first run, and framerates for Nvidia are halved compared to Windows

- Black Myth: Wukong judders badly on Nvidia cards

- Baldur's Gate 3 Linux build is a slideshow on Nvidia cards, and the Windows build fails for some AMD cards

If you research these games in discussion forums, you can find some configuration tweaks which might fix the issues. ProtonDB's rating is not a perfect indicator (BM:W is rated "platinum").

And while Steve says measurements from Linux and Windows are not directly comparable, I did so anyway and saw that Linux suffers a 10-30% drop in average FPS across the board when compared to Windows, depending on the game and video card.

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