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A website to destroy all websites

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Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Post by baubino »

nine_k wrote: post #39
Aurornis wrote: post #25

I think the comments here are a great example of why this idea always sounds better in nostalgic reminiscence than in practice: As I write this, nearly half of the comments here are complaining about this website. There are complaints about requiring JavaScript, the font size, the design, the color choices, the animations. Complaints about everything the designer did to make this site unique and personal, which was t…

The site indeed is trying to be an artistic treatise, as opposed to being a clear, easy-to-read manifesto. It touches many themes I have read about many times, so I skimmed most of the content. It came to the expected indie-web conclusions and recommendations. Indie Web, while nice and fascinating, lacks the large audience. You write things down, and nobody cares. Well, maybe a few friends who keep an eye, and a hiri…

> It is, definitely, very possible to build a rhizome of small indie sites, along the lines of Web 1.0. But they would also benefit from a thoughtful symbiosis with the "big bad" giants of the modern Web.

That’s exactly what the article says. Seems like you made assumptions about the argument based on the design instead of actually reading it.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Post by nofunsir »

mattsears wrote: post #23

This is one of the most difficult articles my eyes could read. The font is so small and my eyes jumped all over the place. The web I want: One that's easy to read.

Let me guess, you want a site that is just a singular column of text, plenty of space for ad breaks, and 3/4 of your monitor is just whitespace on the left and right?

Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Post by fantasizr »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #119
fantasizr wrote: post #91

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rss and private forums are the soul of the internet. find your people

Thinking about it. There are some things which can be done to better sooth the private forums. Like to me especially signing up to each and every forum and then waiting to be accepted by a person feels good but has tons of friction and has some stress attached because you never know how strict the community is as well, it might take a day or two, perhaps this is the reason why we got the dumpster fire of mega interne…

not essentially private per se, but usenet groups and bbs had a natural vetting because it required some competency to even access it

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Post by shimman »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #219
shimman wrote: post #167

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Why don't people that perpetuate the current system defend its existence? Why is the onus on us to develop a new realm of government when the current system never had to do this? Your comment is "but you live in society too!" Society acknowledging the shitty things is the first action in rectifying them.

God did not create the current system of government on the seventh day of creation. The current system had to defend its existence (or rather, creation) at the time of its origin. The thing about criticism is, we're a long way from "the worst possible outcome". That is, there is a lot that the current system gets right. That's why the burden of proof gets put on the one proposing changes. The wrong change could make…

No, neoliberalism is only 50ish years old and all it did was usher in nascent fascism and income inequality.

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Post by Uehreka »

LoganDark wrote: post #207
100721 wrote: post #201

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I think it'd be good to keep in mind that Hacker News is mostly populated by a demographic commonly referred to as "Tech Bros" who, for the most part, are here as part of their journey in creating profitable businesses.

Is that the definition of tech bros? I thought tech bros were people who shilled cryptocurrencies, NFTs and other grifts.

The definition of “Tech bros” is “tech people you don’t like”. There’s no agreed upon definition (just like how people disagree about what is/isn’t a “grift”) because it’s not meant to be descriptive, it’s a rhetorical device.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Post by cauefcr »

ryandrake wrote: post #217
madeofpalk wrote: post #129

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I promise you Hacker News was exactly like this back in 2011. > It has become political (toward the left) I wonder what you're talking about - your definition of 'political' or 'left'. Tech and politics are so deeply intrenched. More than just "is DEI evil and there's no such thing as algorithmic bias". Should Apple be restricted from collecting its Apple Tax and locking down its devices?? Should the EU be able to re…

It would be informative if, when someone complains that XYZ is "to the left" they define exactly what they mean. Is the person they are complaining about really advocating for the proletariat to seize the means of production?

Most times i read political things on HN it looks like visiting a comment straight from ayn rand's delusions, but that's to be expected of the country with two right wing parties pretending to compete.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Post by Uehreka »

ryandrake wrote: post #217
madeofpalk wrote: post #129

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I promise you Hacker News was exactly like this back in 2011. > It has become political (toward the left) I wonder what you're talking about - your definition of 'political' or 'left'. Tech and politics are so deeply intrenched. More than just "is DEI evil and there's no such thing as algorithmic bias". Should Apple be restricted from collecting its Apple Tax and locking down its devices?? Should the EU be able to re…

It would be informative if, when someone complains that XYZ is "to the left" they define exactly what they mean. Is the person they are complaining about really advocating for the proletariat to seize the means of production?

It is not in the interest of “people who complain about things being too far left” to get specific. To do so can only increase the number of people who realize they disagree with them. The vagueness is purposeful.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Post by yawnr »

ryandrake wrote: post #210
stephendause wrote: post #202

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My personal taste for the presentation of a piece of writing is that less is more. I usually find artwork that accompanies a text to be distracting. I love reading work that can stand on its own, invoking images in the mind. I also dislike animations that seem to be made for a certain scroll speed. Having said all of that, I certainly don't think it's bad, nor is it a commentary…

I think when you make such strongly opinionated design decisions on your website, you're deliberately inviting strong criticism. They could have used a readable vanilla bootstrap theme and HN would be actually discussing the actual text content instead of the design, but they didn't, and here we are.

Actually, HN wouldn’t be discussing it at all, most likely. At least not this much. The design is not only good, it has also successfully incited a passionate response from a bunch of people who don’t appreciate it. Win-win!
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