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The original "Primer On Sexism" : 8 points and dead, 0 comments The Rebuttal: 150 points and rising, 140+ comments If that in and of itself doesn't say volumes about the sexist attitudes of the majority of HN readers - and as such, the tech industry as a whole - I don't know what does. Surely a long, thoughtful article, with tons of context in the form of links and research, written by the creator of Modernizr and a…
What he wrote was a primer.. describing the basics of what sexism is.. in fact in his terminology portion he pretty much breaks down what any gender equality book would break down, and he does so in a very concise manor. Also you MUST address rape culture when addressing sexism. Being dismissive of it is what leads to sexism. Reminds me of that kixeye manager "Let me tell you, it's ok to make jokes about slavery beca…
Rape and sexism are not the same thing. Rape is genderless. Despite the fact that rape happens more to women, it happens to both genders. Secondly, just because someone is sexist it doesn't correlate to whether they're rapists or not. Sexism is about ignorance, rape is about many things often anger or control. If you mention rape any time someone says "I get paid less because I'm a girl", it sensationalizes it. It's…
All class systems invoke a behaviors which is the complete opposite of Meritocracy; They are sensational from one viewpoint but are still prevalent in the class system. If you do not openly address those then you are in fact being passive in allowing the system to continue.
Just because you treat women with dignity, and you have friends of multiple races.. Simply means you are not bigoted. You still could be a racist, and sexist. These are some things Faruk Ateş is bringing up in his primer, but is being lost by those who in general are privileged.
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I'm confused. She's not allowed to call herself a girl?
She can, you can't. Similar to the use of "nigga" or "[black] boy" It's a (short-term) tactical subversion move to reduce the power imbalance in cases of extreme sexism, but as a long-term strategy it is incapable of reaching equality.
Granted, that doesn't mean I should.
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That's like saying "I work as a nurse in a hospital in the 1950s". Sure, you may see some sexism second hand, but if you're a female doctor in the same position, it's a totally different experience. The primary thing I didn't like about the author's article was that her criticism of the original article (which were totally valid, by the way) kind of concluded with the impression (given by her anecdotal experience) th…
Of course. But is it any less valid that she says than Faruk, a guy. He's particularly talking about sexism for women - something by his own line he can never understand or experience.
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> (being married makes this a little bit less awkward for me) I would think that it would make it MORE awkward for you to ask a female colleague to go out.
The idea is that they know it's business, not personal. There's no potential hidden agenda about trying to bang your co-worker that there might be if you were single.
I would lever call a woman I interact with in a professional context a girl. That's so Mad Men. Am I the only one who considers this headline inappropriate for a posting about gender issues at work?
The original "Primer On Sexism" : 8 points and dead, 0 comments The Rebuttal: 150 points and rising, 140+ comments If that in and of itself doesn't say volumes about the sexist attitudes of the majority of HN readers - and as such, the tech industry as a whole - I don't know what does. Surely a long, thoughtful article, with tons of context in the form of links and research, written by the creator of Modernizr and a…
Also, her employers are a MAJOR agency. They have been partners of the year for Windows Phone, their client list is both long and high-profile. "And Laura, if you are reading this, a small bit of advice for you. Next time an article "enrages" you, re-read it and I guarantee you will see that it doesn't say what you think it does." I think you need to take your own advice.
Activist on megaphone: Let's all work together to end homelessness!
Tourist: There are no homeless people in NYC! I don't see any!
New Yorker: Um, what? Yes there are. How would you know, you've only just been here for 5 minutes.
Tourist's Sister: New York is a MAJOR city. It's got wonderful theater, and the Yankees.
New Yorker: [at a loss for words]
The original "Primer On Sexism" : 8 points and dead, 0 comments The Rebuttal: 150 points and rising, 140+ comments If that in and of itself doesn't say volumes about the sexist attitudes of the majority of HN readers - and as such, the tech industry as a whole - I don't know what does. Surely a long, thoughtful article, with tons of context in the form of links and research, written by the creator of Modernizr and a…
I also am disturbed by how dismissive you are, but my experience in tech is that when sexism comes up, it is always the women who are the meanest. Whether it's the experienced woman who insists she has never experienced sexism and you are a silly little fool for bringing it up. Or the woman who can't tolerate anyone questioning the latest politically correct spiel of the day like Faruk's.
So she doesn't have that much experience? How about actually rebutting her arguments? Or do you just not like the idea of someone questioning these things? How about writing your own article?
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I ain't touching the whole argument over form, but this: > Laura's not the only person who's expressed this view. Many people in the comemnts have agreed (and disagreed) I think gets at precisely the point. Your average HN reader, the one who's making these agreeing or disagreeing comments, is probably a cis man who doesn't think of himself as sexist, and understandably doesn't want to think that his industry is sexi…
Read the comments on her blog too. First is from a woman, and go down. There are people on both sides of the fence, as you'd expect. But the the original commenter was so blindsided in her views about how she thought the OP was blinded in her views, she didn't even stop to smell the irony.
Sexism that I've noticed has been very subtle. I work with some very intelligent people, so I can't imagine anyone is overtly sexist (ie. thinking that women can't do this job, would not hire a person simply based on gender etc.), but still, there are problems. It's hard to write about sexism as a guy without feeling like you're coming off as sexist, but hey, I probably am. Also, it's hard to write about things witho…
The rockstar shit is a filter for me. If a company advertises itself as wanting rockstars, ninjas, "hardcore" people, or whatever brogrammer bullshit of the week is, I put that job advert to the bottom of my list. The thought of working around the sort of people who would apply because they consider themselves a hardcore ninja rockstar puts me off. (I spent more than enough time with homophobic macho fuckwits when I…