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iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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Unfortunately, I appreciate the deep integration between my phone and my laptop too much to drop either

I don't have Apple devices to compare, but I think KDE Connect can closely replicate this, entirely locally. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's "deep integrations" rely on cloud components that are privacy-violating by design (even if Apple promises not to look at the data flowing through their servers).

Most cross device stuff in the Apple world actually works via P2P Bluetooth and WiFi and functions without an internet connection or even a shared WiFi network. Mac and iDevice WiFi hardware is even designed with this in mind and is capable of maintaining P2P connections to other devices and a WiFi network simultaneously without rapidly switching between the two like many commodity WiFi cards have to.

Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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My hope for laws such as the ones Japan and the EU enacted was that companies would see the writing on the wall and change their practices worldwide, if only for cost reasons (it presumably being more expensive to maintain multiple sets of rules.) However, these companies are now so large that they can choose to absorb any inefficiencies on a country-by-country basis.

Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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I agree with the “enforce competition laws” sentiment, but in this context, enforced naively , all it’ll do is entrench the dominant browser engine, Blink, even more across the mobile ecosystem. I’m sure some devs will love this. But equally, some may worry about the monoculture implications.

It hasn’t on Macs. Safari is still popular among non-tech folk

It’s still got popularity within tech-inclined Mac/iOS circles too because it’s easier on the battery than Chrome (+derivatives) and Firefox. Some would like to switch but because neither Google nor Mozilla has much to lose for their browsers being battery hogs, relatively little engineering effort gets dedicated to improving efficiency compared to WebKit (which is similarly efficient under Linux in e.g. GNOME Web, proving it’s not purely first-party advantage).

Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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The title is misleading. "Allows" need to be in quotes - they did everything they could to make sure this won't change anything in practice. Screw Apple.

Could you elaborate? Other than the "Japan" requirement it seems legit?

I guess the requirements are pretty onerous, but they all seem like table stakes for a browser these days (Firefox or Chrome should have no problem with them, for instance.)

Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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The fact we still can't get this in the US is atrocious. They have already paid the cost to implement this for the EU and Japan, but simply don't allow it for US users because... spite, I guess? Horrible.

It reminds me of when I asked for my account to be deleted from some online learning site (Udacity maybe?) And they're response was: "Nope, we only do that for European users." Like they went through all the effort of implementing a proper way to delete your data, but they just... don't do it if you're not in the right geographic area.

Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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Tailscale drop is better and works across devices.

tail scale drop is much more complicated than literally copying and pasting on iDevice. that's literally all you do, no setup, nothing and this is just one example for one type of action. https://tailscale.com/kb/1106/taildrop look at all of that, lol. iDevice is literally copy and paste any file or text. the end - you don't even have to set it up.

This sounds like hyperbole. I've never used tailscale, but reading that doc:

Installation: Install the tailscale client

Sharing: Click on the share menu and select tailscale

It's a beta feature so there's also a switch you have to flip for now.

Re: iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan

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Documentation to guide devs on safe usage of C++ is enough? So any language should be allowed as long as they instruct developers to be careful.

I don't know if they do this, but those conventions could be enforced by a tool.

Yes, they do this, and it's really not an unreasonable requirement.
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