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Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by denysvitali »

dijit wrote: post #14
denysvitali wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: This comment is not intended to be political - I don't care about the specific party she's part of. Out of all the people I would trust on the matter, Kamala Harris doesn't certainly end up at the top of my list, for reasons such as this one: https://youtu.be/O2SLyBL2kdM?si=Zq-EN8zxj4Y_UCwI You also don't need to be in classified meetings to understand that Bluetooth/ BLE (and specifically the way most ve…

I think many people would be justified in making the argument that bluetooth has existed for at least 20 years and thus is the established battle tested protocol.

Yeah, but Bluetooth spec changed a lot over the years (3000+ pages) and the certification price is rather expensive.

There's an interesting article from Wired [1] about this, although some interesting comments from the engineers working on BT stacks are far more interesting. It seems like most of the manufacturers do not create spec-compliant devices, and that the tests from the certification are just poor.

I'd love to hear more from an expert on the topic, but this looks to be the consensus.

[1]: https://archive.ph/6201V

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by j1elo »

raverbashing wrote: post #16
NoiseBert69 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks god the headphone jacks died in smartphones. I switched to USB-C soundcard cables which are dirt cheap and survive much much more plug-unplug-cycles. They easily can be replaced.

The epidemic of people not wearing headphones has been directly caused by the lack of headphone jacks

A couple days ago there was a bit of a conversation about this, you might find it interesting. It seems this feeling (to the point of calling it an "epidemic"!) might be caused by the known bias of thinking that earlier times were better:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46424228

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raverbashing wrote: post #16
NoiseBert69 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks god the headphone jacks died in smartphones. I switched to USB-C soundcard cables which are dirt cheap and survive much much more plug-unplug-cycles. They easily can be replaced.

The epidemic of people not wearing headphones has been directly caused by the lack of headphone jacks

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Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by watermelon0 »

raverbashing wrote: post #7

Ah yes, the removal of headphone jacks, the gift that keeps on giving Funny that there were always some people here pushing bt audio as "the future", whom I can only assume were the technically shallow but very opinionated people that would die on the smallest technical hills

I'd assume that most people wouldn't want to get back to wired headphones.

Transition period was definitely rough, but nowadays bluetooth headphones are substantially better than they were in the past, and it's quite freeing to not have to deal with wires.

There are definitely benefits to wired headphones, such as better audio quality and no battery life to worry about, but for those cases there are USB-C DACs.

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by andai »

macintux wrote: post #18
miduil wrote: post #13

Glad this submission is finally receiving upvotes. This was just shown at the 39C3 in Hamburg, few days back. Common (unpached) Bluetooth headsets using Airoha's SoCs can be completely taken over by any unauthenticated bystander with a Linux laptop. (CVE-2025-20700, CVE-2025-20701, CVE-2025-20702) This includes firmware dumps, user preferences, Bluetooth Classic session keys, current playing track, ... > Examples of…

> Glad this submission is finally receiving upvotes. Speaking for myself, I have very little patience for technical videos, so I don't believe I've ever upvoted a YouTube submission.

I would read it if it was an article of identical length!

One second thought I think this is called a transcript...

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Edit: Auto-Transcript! (No timestamps, sorry)

https://jsbin.com/jiqihuveci/edit?html,output

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by antirez »

pyvpx wrote: post #5
dijit wrote: post #3

And everyone got mad at OpenBSD for refusing to develop bluetooth. It’s a messy standard and we shouldn’t be surprised that the race to the bottom has left some major gaps.. though Sony WH1000’s are premium tier hardware and they have no real excuses.. I always wondered how people could justify the growth of the bluetooth headphone market in such a way.. Everyone seems to use bluetooth headphones exclusively (in Swed…

Some of us kept using OpenBSD (longer than they should’ve?) because of that and a few other related decisions. So who is everyone, in your meaning?

You can't read English like if it was a declarative logical language. It is obviously an hyperbole to say "everyone". It means "a lot of people". So why they didn't say "a lot of people"? Language uses hyperboles to make a point stronger.

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by conception »

ffguhv wrote: post #20
raverbashing wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The epidemic of people not wearing headphones has been directly caused by the lack of headphone jacks

LOL. People not using headphones in public are narcissistic a-holes, but they’ve been doing it since *long* before headphone jacks went missing from smartphones.

It’s even noted as a problem in the beloved, acclaimed piece of cinema - Star Trek IV : The Voyage Home.

Re: Bluetooth Headphone Jacking: A Key to Your Phone [video]

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Post by petit_robert »

dmd wrote: post #19
smallstepforman wrote: post #17

Most audiophiles ignore bluetooth headphones due to sound quality + latency, so we (audiophiles) stick to wired at home and we also have dedicated headphone amps since the pissy sound card D/A convertors are incredibly bad. Bluetooth only when I’m doing yard work. Sadly, modern music is tuned to crappy headphones, crappy car systems, crappy speakers … I miss the 80’s audiophile obsession, the equipment had heart, and…

What does audio have to do with this post?

GP seems to mean that if people cared about audio quality, they would not use bluetooth in the first place?

Audiophiles tend to have firm stances on what is acceptable or not, I find.

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