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Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system
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>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.
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It's quiet the power requirement. I wonder how long it has to focus on a drone to eliminate it. Like how long is this thing consuming 100kW?
Is that output power of the laser? If it's input power, it doesn't really seem that high. Some US homes could draw 100kW if charging multiple EVs etc.
> Some US homes could draw 100kW if charging multiple EVs
No. Most US homes are on 200 or 100A service. 200A tops out at 48kW
You won't find many home chargers that are more than 60A.
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Israel invests in defending their civilians with technology like Iron Beam. In contrast the Gazan government strategically uses humans shields [2, 3] and despite this the majority of Palestinians still support starting this war by attacking civilians on Oct 7th [1]. Defense technology doesn’t help if you don’t want it unfortunately. Hamas also has hundreds of miles of tunnels which civilians aren’t allowed to use. 1:…
> the Gazan government strategically uses humans shields This just means Israel knows they're hitting women and children every time they send a bomb their way. > the majority of Palestinians still support starting this war Palestine isn't a democracy with well documented preferences. Israel is though, so why don't you say that a majority of Israelis are fine with the killing of women and children in Gaza? elcritch, y…
> are you saying US women and children are fair game now?
Women have been serving in combat roles in the U.S. military for decades now…
Re: Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system
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>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.
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There is no such thing as a defensive weapon. You might be tempted to say "what about a missile shield?" but such a thing allows the owner to act with impunity with levels of violence we arguably haven't seen since 1945. As a real example of this, the only reason a deeper conflict didn't develop with Iran this year was because Iran demonstrated they could overwhelm the various layers of Israel's missile shield and Ir…
If you want society to be more vulnerable to military action, then the biggest innovation is health care. Improved health care is what allowed nations to create and maintain larger military forces. Through out history, disease and malnourished caused more death by a large margin than actually violence in combat, and many war campaign stopped suddenly because one or both sides became unable to continue.
> Improved health care is what allowed nations to create and maintain larger military forces
Isn’t it the other way? With a lot of medicine’s modern advances being rooted in combat medicine?
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>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.
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This applies to Israel as well.
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>Israeli civilians have faced bombardment by tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza for the last 20 years [1]. There's a reason that's been happening, and it's not technical in nature. Technical solutions are thus unlikely to successfully address the root cause.
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You'd be amazed at the amount of radicalization Israeli society gets if you'd bother to look with unbiased eyes. Attacking aid trucks? Spitting at Christians, even tourists? Stealing houses of West Bank people? (Oh must be for that Lebensraum)
Maybe that's one goal you should add to your 2026 list...
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> seeing kids shot at intentionally from drones Anytime somebody makes a claim about a drone operating a firearm, you should be extremely skeptical. There's a reason everyone uses explosive drones, not "drone with a machine gun". Small flying machines trying to fire off rounds doesn't work out. > submarine launched drones throwing incendiary munitions at a flotilla Per the Greek coastguard, someone left a lit joint b…
whenever you see someone making the claim that a gun won't work on an aircraft, I urge you to look at our entire aviation history of vehicles with guns strapped on. Planes, helicopters, jet-packs, 'manned platforms', whatever your fancy. we're not talking about glocks ductaped to DJIs here, and all of these mysterious engineer efforts that 'just doesn't work out' are hurdles that man has faced and conquered before. W…
> I urge you to look at our entire aviation history of vehicles with guns strapped on
Stabilizing moving firing platforms has a fascinating history going back to Bronze Age chariots.
As for planes and helicopters, there is a reason their big guns are mounted into the airframe, and why the biggest cannons in the air are on fixed-wing aircraft.
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I can both dislike the Israeli government and want for the Israeli population to be protected against missile and drone attacks. I can both dislike Hamas and want for Palestine to be free. Is it that hard for you to imagine that people just want to be safe? This is not a football match where you pick a side and then hate on the other side! Stop doing that! These are real people. If groups shoot stuff at Israel of cou…
Everyone wants peace and safety on their own terms. It's not a virtue to remove all context from your analysis of the situation.
The overwhelming majority of Isealis want to maintain a system of violent apartheid that benefits them explicitly based on their ethnicity, and be insulated from any consequences. Some of them might be sad about the war crimes their army commits in a daily basis, but almost none are doing anything about it. Their victims have been successfully isolated by the world's largest superpower and its network of corrupt client states.
So yes, in that situation, "defensive" warfare technologies for Israel are clearly a bad thing.