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Re: On privacy and control

#41

What's the story for maps and POI search on GrapheneOS? I'm assuming using Google Maps is a non-starter since that defeats the whole point of all these privacy protections in the first place.

Take a look at CoMaps. It's fully open source with open governance model.

It reached the level of being usable for general population and it improves rapidly due to gained momentum.

Re: On privacy and control

#42

What's the story for maps and POI search on GrapheneOS? I'm assuming using Google Maps is a non-starter since that defeats the whole point of all these privacy protections in the first place.

I use organic maps. I also have a seperate user profile that can not run in the background that has Google maps installed and use that sparingly. I've used it once in the last 6 months.

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#44
post #24

> Instead of "privacy" we really should be talking about "control". Fantastic. This is what I have been shifting towards these past couple years. Hardly anyone likes to be controlled, right?

I don't but it seems a LOT of people do. They even seem to prefer it.

Control means ownership. Ownership means work.

Until they've been burned by unspoken realities of not owning some piece of their own digital lives, most people will continue to prefer being tenants, rather than owners.

Technology is only the most recent domain in which we can observe the human tendency to prefer the short term, incurious ease and license not to think that tenancy provides over the long term, ongoing work and thorough understanding that ownership demands. To become an owner you need some deeper intrinsically cultivated reason to desire it.

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#45

As much as I'd love to daily drive an OS like GrapheneOS, the risk of running into apps that use Google Integrity API thereby making it impossible to run those apps on Graphene is too much of an inconvenience. I took a look at this curated list of bank apps[1] supported on Graphene OS and I'm glad that a large majority of them work on Graphene. However, just my luck that one of the banks I use on this list isn't supp…

I worried about that too, but jumped in and it hasn't been an issue at all in two years. Including three bank apps. And it's usually so easy to reset to vanilla Android if you need to that it shouldn't be your moat.

Also, there are almost always alternatives, like the mobile website.

Things like Apple/Google Wallet aren’t significantly superior to a contactless credit/debit card.

About the only bank thing I can think of that actually requires an app is check deposit, which is super rare.

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#46
> I use Cloudflare's DNS because I trust them more than other companies; purely based on their business and how their incentives align

The author fails to mention that they are currently working at Cloudflare, I think that should be made clear otherwise I see it as misleading to the reader, like so many pointed it out, Cloudflare is just a corporation like any other corporation out there...

Re: On privacy and control

#47

> I use Cloudflare's DNS because I trust them more than other companies; purely based on their business and how their incentives align The author fails to mention that they are currently working at Cloudflare, I think that should be made clear otherwise I see it as misleading to the reader, like so many pointed it out, Cloudflare is just a corporation like any other corporation out there...

At least of now, they do when around when they talk about DNS

Re: On privacy and control

#48
post #20

As much as I'd love to daily drive an OS like GrapheneOS, the risk of running into apps that use Google Integrity API thereby making it impossible to run those apps on Graphene is too much of an inconvenience. I took a look at this curated list of bank apps[1] supported on Graphene OS and I'm glad that a large majority of them work on Graphene. However, just my luck that one of the banks I use on this list isn't supp…

Is the app the only way to access what you need? I've never once install the app of any bank I've ever used (10ish) and never found myself wishing I had.

Same, mostly, one bank I keep an account at to support Zelle payments which they only offer through their app

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#49
the conversation about what a privacy enhanced way of relating to tech is hasn't really matured much.

on one hand its being relative to a list of specific threat actors you avoid. on the other, its maintaining a role with leverage vs your devices and services.

privacy doesnt catch on as product because you have to navigate an inferior relationship to those threat actors first, and nobody aspires to that unless they already have a kind of alt cyberpunk underdog mentality and attitude.

the non-punk or normal, leveraged position is like a business or first class lounge for tech. calm, negotiable, amenable, hidden and exclusive power, craft, affiliation and signalling.

most privacy tech and apps are still in the mall ninja cyberpunk mentality, with some slightly self important NGO/public sector affilation signalling with Signal. The aesthetics of privacy need to evolve to drive more meaningful tech imo.

Re: On privacy and control

#50
> I use Cloudflare's DNS because I trust them more than other companies; purely based on their business and how their incentives align

It's a very naive way of thinking about some businesses. What did Cloudflare do to earn this trust? It's just another VC-backed company and 1.1.1.1 is a free service. So Cloudflare is going to lose money just to protect my privacy? I don't think so.

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