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Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by esseph »

Aurornis wrote: post #120
silisili wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reference, in the US at least, there was/is a company called Joes Data Center in KC who would colo a 1U for $30 or $40 a month. I'd used them for years before not needing it anymore, so not some fly by night company(despite the name). At that rate, that would buy you nearly 1000 years of hosting.

I was trying to avoid naming exact prices because it becomes argument fodder, but locally I can get good quality colo for $50/month and excellent quality coloration with high bandwidth and good interconnects for under $100 for 1U I really don’t know where the commenter above was getting the idea that $400K wouldn’t last very long

Alaska. Dollars per Mbit + reliable power in colo.

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by arcfour »

stefan_ wrote: post #123
1f60c wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a $400,000 grant IDK if they could bag this kind of grant every year, but isn't this the scale where cloud hosting starts to make sense?

So that they can pay 100x more expenses for.. no gain? They would pay an arm just for traffic.

CloudFlare is free/cheap and hey presto, no servers to manage!

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by vjay15 »

I wish they could give more clarity on whether its hosted in a professional server or someone's bedroom, because just saying that "it's held by a long time contributor with a proven track record of securely hosting services" is not very reassuring.

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by amrit3128 »

orthecreedence wrote: post #94
xandrius wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Nothing is ever good enough" (tm)

If I were running a volunteer project, I would be dumping thousands a month into top-tier hosting across multiple datacenters around the world with global failover.

the _if_ is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. You're free to complain about it but Fdroid has been running fine for years and I'd rather have a volunteer manage the servers than some big corporation

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by wolpoli »

SuperNinKenDo wrote: post #119

Christ, comment sections like this make me never want to do anything that might gain widespread adoption, ever. Brought to you by the helpful folks who managed to bully WinAmp into retreating from open source. Very productive.

A lot of people here are used to working for companies with a larger infrastructure budget.

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by tisdadd »

schubidubiduba wrote: post #102
JuniperMesos wrote: post #84

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I don't have a problem with an open source project I use (and I do use F-Froid) hosting a server in a basement. I do have a problem with having the entire project hosted on one server in a basement, because it means that the entire project goes down if that basement gets flooded or the house burns down or the power goes out for an extended period of time, etc. Having two servers in two basements not near each other w…

What do you think would happen if that server went down? People can't get app updates, or install new ones. That is all. That is not critical. They can then probably whip up a new hosted server to take over within a few days, at most. Big deal. They are not hosting a critical service, and running on donations. They are doing everything right.

I concur, and given the amount of apps they build it makes sense to spend the money on a good build server to me, especially if it is someone with experience hosting trusted servers as mentioned as well as a contributor already. If people do not want to use it, the source code to build yourself is still available for the apps they supply.

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by [deleted] »

fruitworks wrote: post #80
lukan wrote: post #24

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"I understand this is a volunteer effort, but it's not a good look." I would agree, that it is not a good look for this society, to lament so much about the big evil corporations and invest so little in the free alternatives.

You can't just host servers in your own basement! You need to pay out the ass to host servers in some big company's basement!

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Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by calvinmorrison »

0x1ch wrote: post #95
LoganDark wrote: post #72

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Colo is when you want to bring your own hardware, not when you want physical access to your devices. Many (most?) colo datacenters are still secure sites that you can't visit.

Every colo I've visited has a system for allowing physical access for our equipment, generally during specific operating hours with secure access card.

secure access cards, IDing, bag check, and a tech following you around. Of course cabinets are all locked up as well.

A lot of these places are like fortresses

Re: A faster heart for F-Droid

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Post by encrypted_bird »

arcfour wrote: post #132
stefan_ wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that they can pay 100x more expenses for.. no gain? They would pay an arm just for traffic.

CloudFlare is free/cheap and hey presto, no servers to manage!

Counterpoint: that would require using CloudFlare.
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