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Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by physicsguy »

I work for a US based company from the UK. I'd be quite reluctant mostly for the hassle factor - international travel is a pain, now I have a family I don't want anything other than a super easy trip when travelling for work, I don't usually have to travel, so if it's going to be a nightmare I'd rather not go. I've heard of colleagues having to take burner phones to China and stuff in the past and noped out of that, and it feels like it's not far off that for the US these days, so while I quite like the US in general it does put me off enormously.

On another note, we're having our next international team get together in Canada rather than SF. Make of that what you will.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by onebigtime »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #28
ponkoli wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If someone who doesn't even have your language as their first language can just come and steal your job, maybe that's a little bit your fault too.

Yes it is. That is why we are fixing the problem with Trump.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by onebigtime »

physicsguy wrote: post #41

I work for a US based company from the UK. I'd be quite reluctant mostly for the hassle factor - international travel is a pain, now I have a family I don't want anything other than a super easy trip when travelling for work, I don't usually have to travel, so if it's going to be a nightmare I'd rather not go. I've heard of colleagues having to take burner phones to China and stuff in the past and noped out of that,…

The amount of unnecessary travel these large corporations do is insane. All of it subsidized by taxpayers as well just to pollute and destroy the environment for imaginary profits that inflate away within 5 years.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by stuffn »

Herring wrote: post #23

It doesn't matter to conservatives. Look at the US South. They have been poor for generations because they dislike diversity more than they want a strong economy and common prosperity. As far as I can tell the best fix is higher education (exposure to diverse viewpoints & critical thinking predicts partisan shifting). But I'm sure there are other options.

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Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

onebigtime wrote: post #42
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone who doesn't even have your language as their first language can just come and steal your job, maybe that's a little bit your fault too.

Yes it is. That is why we are fixing the problem with Trump.

That doesn't fix the underlying problem which is you being not very competent.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by LightBug1 »

onebigtime wrote: post #39
LightBug1 wrote: post #10

Shhhh ... when your competition is kicking themselves upside their own ass ... keep quiet and carry on.

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I'm curious about how the culture is changing over there.

Your comment, from the apparent heart and home of free competition and capitalist zeal, crying about competition?

Are you really American? Not being bad here - genuine question.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by garbawarb »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21
garbawarb wrote: post #6

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The only constant is that things are always changing, and getting more hostile for foreigners. It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose.

> disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose Trump legitimately campaigned on being cruel to illegal migrants and refugees. He also campaigned on reducing immigration in general. To that extent, you are correct inasmuch as Trump's H1-B policies were promised. (MAGA wasn't subtle [1].) Where I think we can legitimately say this is MAGA versus Republicans is in the reverse brain drain. America in t…

That's not true because no other country is even trying to take the lead, economically speaking. China is the only country that pursues innovation nearly as aggressively but they're not a desirable immigration destination. Canada and European countries are in the best position to step up, but they're not doing so other than being more welcoming than the US in accepting skilled immigrants. The economic incentives (capital markets, risk-taking, business-friendliness, talent density) haven't changed at all and if you're good at what you do, the US is still the best place in almost all cases. Enough that it's still often worth moving there despite how immigrant-hostile the country is.
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