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Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by tw04 »

garbawarb wrote: post #6
Havoc wrote: post #2

It’s an inevitable outcome of the hostile and unpredictable enforcement of rules that can change whenever trump has a bad day

The only constant is that things are always changing, and getting more hostile for foreigners. It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose.

> It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose.

It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”.

That’s ignoring all the people who didn’t vote at all. Saying not voting is the same as voting for the bad thing is an empty accusation that lacks critical thinking.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by fyrepuffs »

tw04 wrote: post #11
garbawarb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only constant is that things are always changing, and getting more hostile for foreigners. It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose.

> It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose. It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”. That’s ignoring all the people who didn’t vote at all. Saying not voting is the same as voting for the bad thing is an empty accusation that lacks critical thinking.

...and the price of eggs. Don't forget that.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by franktankbank »

dyauspitr wrote: post #5
ponkoli wrote: post #3

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This is a very incorrect statement. 40% of all current US unicorns have an Indian immigrant founder. They might be the greatest job creators in the economy. Giving them up will be the end of the US. 1% of the population starting 40% of our billion dollar companies. https://news.crunchbase.com/venture/foreign-born-entrepreneu...

> 40% of all current US unicorns

This should be easy to cite. Thanks in advance.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by andsoitis »

tw04 wrote: post #11
garbawarb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only constant is that things are always changing, and getting more hostile for foreigners. It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose.

> It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose. It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”. That’s ignoring all the people who didn’t vote at all. Saying not voting is the same as voting for the bad thing is an empty accusation that lacks critical thinking.

> It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”.

Pew Research disagrees. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/13/what-trum...

Economy ranked #1 - 93% said it was very important (side note: something Democrats somehow missed).

Second was immigration - 82% said it was very important (another thing Democrats missed).

Less important to Trump voters: climate change (11% said it was very important), racial and ethnic equality (18% said it was very important), and abortion (35%).

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by lesuorac »

tw04 wrote: post #11
garbawarb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only constant is that things are always changing, and getting more hostile for foreigners. It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose.

> It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose. It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”. That’s ignoring all the people who didn’t vote at all. Saying not voting is the same as voting for the bad thing is an empty accusation that lacks critical thinking.

Not voting is probably worse. Candidates won't exist that reflect your preferences if you don't actually demonstrate them.

I do wish we'd have a bunch of electoral reforms but those candidates don't do well during primaries.

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by slater »

ponkoli wrote: post #8
dyauspitr wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very incorrect statement. 40% of all current US unicorns have an Indian immigrant founder. They might be the greatest job creators in the economy. Giving them up will be the end of the US. 1% of the population starting 40% of our billion dollar companies. https://news.crunchbase.com/venture/foreign-born-entrepreneu...

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This reads like some bizarro IT version of Schrödinger's Immigrant: Both stealing our jobs AND taking our welfare checks at the same time!

Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by lesuorac »

andsoitis wrote: post #16
tw04 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's disingenuous to blame Trump when this is what U.S. voters chose. It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”. That’s ignoring all the people who didn’t vote at all. Saying not voting is the same as voting for the bad thing is an empty accusation that lacks critical thinking.

> It’s really not. Exit polls show a tiny fraction of voters picked Trump for anything other than his empty promises of “instantly fixing the economy”. Pew Research disagrees. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/13/what-trum... Economy ranked #1 - 93% said it was very important (side note: something Democrats somehow missed). Second was immigration - 82% said it was very important (another thing Democrats…

Interesting poll.

> > The one topic that lagged a bit was health care: 58% said they knew what he would do if he won the race.

I would love to see a deep dive on the 58%'s answer since Trump has had a healthcare plan since 2015 that we have yet to see.

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