The future of software development is software developers

Post by robofanatic » Tue, Dec 30, 2025, 6:35 PM UTC

harrisreynolds wrote: post #378

I think "The Bitter Lesson" is relevant here [1]. This wave IS different. It isn't a matter of "if" but "when". I am a long-time software developer too... but I am strongly encouraging people to embrace the future now and get creative in finding ways to adapt. There will always be demand for smart and creative people. BUT ... if you don't look up and look around you right now at some point you will be irrelevant. Als…

Post by threethirtytwo » Tue, Dec 30, 2025, 6:37 PM UTC

hansmayer wrote: post #387

threethirtytwo wrote: post #283

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The proof is all around you. I am talking about software professionals not some bullshit spread sheet thing. What I’m saying is this: From my pov Everyone is using LLMs to write code now. The overwhelming majority of software products in existence today are now being changed with LLM code. The majority of software products being created from scratch are also mostly LLM code. This is obvious to me. It’s not speculatio…

> Your company and the people around you haven’t started using it because the culture hasn’t caught up. We have been using LLMs since 2021, if I havent repeated that enough in these threads. What culture do I have to catch up with? I have been paying top tier LLM models for my entire team since it became an option. Do you think you are proselytizing to the un-initiated here? That is a naive view at best. My issue is…

Post by techblueberry » Tue, Dec 30, 2025, 6:42 PM UTC

sokoloff wrote: post #267

techblueberry wrote: post #249

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Have we though? 1. Fundamentals do change, Yuval Noah Harari made this point in the book Sapiens, but basically there are core beliefs (in fact the idea that things do change for the better is relatively new, “the only constant is change”. Wasn’t really true before the 19th century. What does “the great disrupter we can’t adapt to” mean exactly? If humans annihilate themselves from climate change, the earth will adap…

Isn’t this “healthy, large middle class” a reality that is less than 100 years old in the best of cases? (After a smaller initial emergence perhaps 100 years prior to that.) In 250K years since modern humans emerged, that’s a comparative blink of an eye. There might be slight local dips along the timeline, but I think most Westerners (and maybe most people, but my lived experience is Western) would not willingly trad…

Post by mock-possum » Tue, Dec 30, 2025, 6:43 PM UTC

lelele wrote: post #398

solaire_oa wrote: post #356

Most people in this thread are quibbling about the exact degree of utility LLMs provide, which a tedious argument. What's more interesting to me is, per the article, the concern regarding everyone who is leaning into LLMs without realizing (or downplaying) the exorbitant, externalized cost. Our current LLM usage is being subsidized to the point of being free by outside investment. One day when the well runs dry, you…

> One day when the well runs dry, you must be able to either pay the actual cost What multiple of the current cost do you expect? Currently, GitHub Copilot and ChatGPT for Business cost $19/month and €29/month respectively. Even a 10×–20× increase will still be economically viable in a professional setting if the tools continue to save hours of work.

Post by magic_hamster » Tue, Dec 30, 2025, 6:47 PM UTC

solaire_oa wrote: post #356

Most people in this thread are quibbling about the exact degree of utility LLMs provide, which a tedious argument. What's more interesting to me is, per the article, the concern regarding everyone who is leaning into LLMs without realizing (or downplaying) the exorbitant, externalized cost. Our current LLM usage is being subsidized to the point of being free by outside investment. One day when the well runs dry, you…