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Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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As much as I appreciate the tiny serif for lowercase L and numeral 1 to differentiate l I and 1, I am not the biggest fan of the capital I glyph without the horizontal serifs. It's my biggest design gripe with most sans-serif fonts as it makes it FRUSTRATINGLY difficult to differentiate when looking at words by themselves. Is that lota or Iota? Is that iodestone or lodestone? Both real examples where I fumbled readin…

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Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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Are there any designers here who can explain when the differences between Public Sans and Roboto Sans and when to use one or the other?

I don’t think it’s that straightforward to answer that. They’re both body fonts. Public Sans is a bit wider (as it isn’t geometric) and roboto seems a bit thicker. Besides these bits which can be worked around, they’re functionally too similar. Maybe you’d prefer to use Public Sans because it’s less condensed which works well for readability of smaller fonts that would be in a body of text. But you can just adjust a number of things to get what you’re looking for here.

A more vague answer I can think of is that it’s preferential and doesn’t matter to most — with designers just being highly particular about preferences, in a way that isn’t really open to objective choice. One font may display slightly better but the other font pairs better with the title font. Or we’ll look for specific issues that I don’t really see in either fonts.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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post #30

anything on digital.gov is at best on life support given 18F was disbanded and much of the government digital service efforts have been neglected

The Secretary of State recently decreed that sans serif fonts were woke and mandated all communications use Times New Roman.

I doubt they got the memo.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

#35
post #8

As much as I appreciate the tiny serif for lowercase L and numeral 1 to differentiate l I and 1, I am not the biggest fan of the capital I glyph without the horizontal serifs. It's my biggest design gripe with most sans-serif fonts as it makes it FRUSTRATINGLY difficult to differentiate when looking at words by themselves. Is that lota or Iota? Is that iodestone or lodestone? Both real examples where I fumbled readin…

IBM Plex is very good. Recently, I have been enjoying https://rsms.me/inter/ for interfaces a bit more (with ss02 for body and ss02+tnum for tables activated).

Hasn't Inter been the default tech font for the last 5 years or so by virtue of being the default font in Figma? The Times New Roman of UI.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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post #30

anything on digital.gov is at best on life support given 18F was disbanded and much of the government digital service efforts have been neglected

The Secretary of State recently decreed that sans serif fonts were woke and mandated all communications use Times New Roman.

God, I was so hopeful that you were joking but I guess I should know better by now.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

#38
post #30

anything on digital.gov is at best on life support given 18F was disbanded and much of the government digital service efforts have been neglected

The Secretary of State recently decreed that sans serif fonts were woke and mandated all communications use Times New Roman.

I thought it was a joke, then I checked.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/trump-times-...

The quote is milder and the "woke" bit was added by others, but the context is essentially correct.

In an interview, the font's creator took it as a compliment and was a good sport about it.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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post #8

As much as I appreciate the tiny serif for lowercase L and numeral 1 to differentiate l I and 1, I am not the biggest fan of the capital I glyph without the horizontal serifs. It's my biggest design gripe with most sans-serif fonts as it makes it FRUSTRATINGLY difficult to differentiate when looking at words by themselves. Is that lota or Iota? Is that iodestone or lodestone? Both real examples where I fumbled readin…

Shoutout to Atkinson Hyperlegible Next, designed for the Braille Institut having excellent glyph differentiation ("Next" with variable weight) https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible+Next

This is what I switch to whenever a default font annoys me because of poor glyph differentiation. It's what it says on the tin.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IBM Plex is very good. Recently, I have been enjoying https://rsms.me/inter/ for interfaces a bit more (with ss02 for body and ss02+tnum for tables activated).

Hasn't Inter been the default tech font for the last 5 years or so by virtue of being the default font in Figma? The Times New Roman of UI.

Oh, is that why everyone uses it? I just assumed people wanted knockoff San Francisco on purpose
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