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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by ludicrousdispla »

hodanli wrote: post #437
omnicognate wrote: post #258

It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

worst is graphic settings for games. needs PhD to understand.

They just need 3 settings for games, 1) make room hot, 2) make room warm, 3) maintain room temperature.

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Post by dontlaugh »

jamesnorden wrote: post #453
dontlaugh wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If films shot at a decent enough frame rate, people wouldn’t feel the need to try to fix it. And snobs can have a setting that skips every other frame. Similar is the case for sound and (to a much lesser extent) contrast. Viewers need to be able to see and hear in comfort.

So true, everybody else is wrong and you're right.

Getting headaches from low frame rate is rare, I guess. I only know a few others with this problem.

But preferring high frame rate is common, as evidenced by games and the many people who use TV interpolation features.

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Post by sotix »

pupppet wrote: post #66

The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

I don't understand how your inability to understand dialog negates a producer giving appropriate instructions on visual settings? The post was good advice, and your train of thought feels like some sort of fallacy.

To be a bit more helpful, what are you using to listen to the show? There are dozens of ways to hear the audio. Are you listening through the TV speakers, a properly set up center channel speaker, a Kindle Fire tablet, or something else? Providing those details would assist us in actually helping you.

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Post by sotix »

tuetuopay wrote: post #346
redox99 wrote: post #105

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Never had an issue with Stranger Things. Maybe you're using the internal speakers?

I watch YouTube with internal TV speakers and I understand everything, even muddled accents. I cannot understand a single TV show or movie with the same speakers. Something tells me it's about the source material, not the device.

A YouTube video is likely a single track of audio or a very minimal amount. A movie mixed for Dolby Atmos is designed for multiple speakers. Now, they will create compromised mixes for something like a stereo setup, and a good set of bookshelf speakers will be able to create a phantom center channel. However, having a dedicated center channel speaker will do a much better job. And using the TV's built in speakers will do a very poor job. Professional mixing is a different beast than most YouTube videos, and accordingly, the sound is mixed quite different.

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Post by gwbas1c »

pezezin wrote: post #90
pupppet wrote: post #66

The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

English is my second language and I always though my lack of understanding was a skill issue. Then I noticed that native speakers also complain. Then I started to watch YouTube channels, live TV and old movies, and I found out I could understand almost everything! (depending on the dialect) When even native speakers can't properly enjoy modern movies and TV shows, you know that something is very wrong...

The problem is that a lot of content today is mixed so that effects like explosions and gunshots are LOUD, whispers are quiet, and dialog is normal.

It only works if you're watching in a room that's acoustically quiet, like a professional recording studio. Once your heater / air conditioner or other appliance turns on, it drowns out everything but the loudest parts of the mix.

Otherwise, the problem is that you probably don't want to listen to ear-splitting gunshots and explosions, then turn it down to a normal volume, only to make the dialog and whispers unintelligible. I hit this problem a lot watching TV after the kids go to bed.

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Post by Tempest1981 »

tor825gl wrote: post #404
snakeboy wrote: post #216

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Makes sense, but how does this explain the fact that this problem seems recent, or at least to have worsened recently ?

Have you got older recently?

Or fear of turning up the volume due to children sleeping nearby. Dynamic range seems higher "these days".

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Post by 0_____0 »

Avery3R wrote: post #402
TeMPOraL wrote: post #383

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> It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It would also help if there was a common, universal, perfect "reference TV" to aim for (or multiple such references for different use cases), with the job of the TV being to approximate this reference as closely as possible. Alas, much like documenting the features, this would turn TVs into c…

"reference TVs" exist, they're what movies/tv shows are mastered on, e.g. https://flandersscientific.com/XMP551/

I wonder if there's a video equivalent to the Yamaha NS-10[1], a studio monitor (audio) that (simplifying) sounds bad enough that audio engineers reckon if they can make the mix sound good on them, they'll sound alright on just about anything.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_NS-10

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Post by dylan604 »

Y_Y wrote: post #426
Avery3R wrote: post #402

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"reference TVs" exist, they're what movies/tv shows are mastered on, e.g. https://flandersscientific.com/XMP551/

$21k for a 55-inch 4K is rough, but this thing must be super delicate because basic US shipping is $500. (Still cheaper than a Netflix subscription though.)

Reference monitor pricing has never been any where near something mere mortals could afford. The price you gave of $21k for 55” is more than 50% of the average of $1k+ per inch I’m used to seeing from Sony.
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