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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by lotsofpulp »

vvillena wrote: post #205
array_key_first wrote: post #155

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If anything I'd say speakers have only gotten shittier as screens have thinned out. And it used to be fairly common for people to have dedicated speakers, but not anymore. Just anecdotally, I can tell speaker tech has progressed slowly. Stepping in a car from 20 years ago sound... pretty good, actually.

A high end amp+speaker system from 50 years ago will still sound good. The tradeoffs back then were size, price, and power consumption. Same as now. Lower spec speakers have become good enough, and DSP has improved to the point that tiny speakers can now output mediocre/acceptable sound. The effect of this is that the midrange market is kind of gone, replaced with neat but still worse products such as soundbars (for…

I feel like an Apple TV plus 2 homepod minis work well enough for 90% of people’s viewing situations, and Apple TV plus 2 homepods for 98% of situations. That would cost $330 to $750 plus tax and less than 5 minutes of setup/research time.

The time and money cost of going further than that is not going to provide a sufficient return on investment except to a very small proportion of people.

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Post by mrob »

Yizahi wrote: post #388
throw-12-16 wrote: post #351

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I'm not a speaker sales person, believe whatever you want.

Do you realize that phones, tablets, laptops, most PCs don't have an option of "just add speakers"? You are technically correct, yes full Dolby Duper Atmo 9.2.4.8.100500 system is better. But people without them are not using their setups incorrectly, they have valid setups they have valid use case and they don't get basic level of quality which IS possible and WAS possible just a few years ago with proper channel mi…

>Do you realize that phones, tablets, laptops, most PCs don't have an option of "just add speakers"?

You can buy Bluetooth receivers that plug into the line input of your amplifier.

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Post by jamesnorden »

dontlaugh wrote: post #256
knorker wrote: post #221

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To me it's not about art. It's about this setting making the production quality of a billion dollar movie look like a cardboard SNL set. When walking past a high end TV I've honestly confused a billion dollar movie for a teen weekend project, due to this. It's only when I see "hang on, how's Famous Actor in this?" that I see that oh this is a Marvel movie? To me it's as if people who don't see it are saying "oh, I di…

If films shot at a decent enough frame rate, people wouldn’t feel the need to try to fix it. And snobs can have a setting that skips every other frame. Similar is the case for sound and (to a much lesser extent) contrast. Viewers need to be able to see and hear in comfort.

So true, everybody else is wrong and you're right.

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Post by ubermonkey »

pupppet wrote: post #66

The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

Well, first, audio and video are different things.

Second, I'm 55. There ARE programs I turn on the captioning for, but it's not universal at all. Generally, it's things with accents.

We absolutely do not need the captions at our house for STRANGER THINGS.

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Post by lesuorac »

IlikeKitties wrote: post #442
wil421 wrote: post #435

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It was garbage before streaming services took off. Dark Knight Rises is one example. I can remember renting DVDs in the mid to late 2000s from Netflix and they had a similar issues.

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Eh, if you ask people what they want they'll say a faster horse.

I can understand his point that you can go wild with visual effects in movies so he wants to experiment with sound. I do think his experiments are not successful though but you can't always pick winners.

I just wish I could get the unedited movies for home and have black boxes to fix the resolution instead of getting an edited movie. I don't mind not being able to hear the words when I can read them plus it removes second screen temptations.

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Post by ubermonkey »

Arubis wrote: post #433

I can spot Samsung panels from a distance because they've always got a nausea-inducing motion "enhancement". No idea if this is a setting or always on because it's such a turnoff that I'll never purchase one.

it's a setting. We have a Samsung and out of the box it was awful, just like every other modern TV, but with the goofy bullshit turned off it looks amazing.

(How did we decide on it if the defaults are terrible? A neighbor bought the same one on sale and figured it out ahead of me.)

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Post by cindyllm »

IlikeKitties wrote: post #442
wil421 wrote: post #435

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It was garbage before streaming services took off. Dark Knight Rises is one example. I can remember renting DVDs in the mid to late 2000s from Netflix and they had a similar issues.

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Post by ubermonkey »

pelorat wrote: post #300

If your TV supports a "gaming" mode, I always recommend enabling that, because it usually turns off all the "enhancements". TV's should not try to be anything more than a large monitor.

"Game mode" on my Samsung absolutely does some goofy vibrancy thing to the color balance that is, at least to me, antithetical to watching well-created film and TV.

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Post by behringer »

astrange wrote: post #69

Dynamic Contrast = Low is needed on LG TVs to actually enable HDR scene metadata or something weird like that. 60->120hz motion smoothing is also useful on OLEDs to prevent visual judder; you want either that or black frame insertion. I have no idea what Super Resolution actually does, it never seems to do anything. Also, as a digital video expert I will allow you to leave motion smoothing on.

Dynamic Contrast to high, everything else off. Super resolution and motion smoothing? Disgusting.

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Post by lanyard-textile »

pezezin wrote: post #90
pupppet wrote: post #66

The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

English is my second language and I always though my lack of understanding was a skill issue. Then I noticed that native speakers also complain. Then I started to watch YouTube channels, live TV and old movies, and I found out I could understand almost everything! (depending on the dialect) When even native speakers can't properly enjoy modern movies and TV shows, you know that something is very wrong...

English is my native language and I always watch with captions on. It is ridiculous :)
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