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HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to sound cynical, but what's to stop these officials from picking non-multinational regional bank?

You can't have a credit card which makes your life miserable in the modern world even if you can find a bank : Visa, Master Card, Amex are all American.

Financial sovereignty is one of the reasons India went with its own RuPay (https://www.rupay.co.in/credit-cards) credit cards.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, moving here involved basically buying a plane ticket, and, after I got here, booking an appointment to get a National Insurance number (basically equivalent to an American Social Security number). Never occurred to me that moving to any other EU country might be harder than that.

> Never occurred to me that moving to any other EU country might be harder than that. I don't think it is? I moved to Spain from other EU country the same way, basically bought the cheapest one-way plane ticket I could find, spent ~1 month here before deciding I wanted to live here, then got myself the local residence card one morning and that's about it. Everything else just worked by using my passport in the meanti…

It depends on the country. And Spain is not as simple as you say. Even getting the NIE is very difficult due to the foreign police not making enough appointments available. And expensive immigration agencies hoarding those appointments to make money.

Then you need a social security number exist is different than the NIE, you need empradonamiento, you need to register with the health service and you need to set up your tax if you're going to work here (or if you live there more than 180 days of the year)

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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At least now it should be pretty easy for any tech person to patch apk removing this check

Probably not, because whatever Google is calling its remote attestation scheme this week (SafetyNet? Play Integrity?) has a way to check where the app was sourced and whether it has been altered.

Google is an asshole for making this. When Microsoft first proposed a scheme like that for PCs under the name Palladium, everyone knew it was a corporate power grab. Somehow, it got normalized.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #18

Plenty of UK banks that don't require this, and whose apps will also work on a rooted device. Monzo will display a warning that sets out the fact there's an increased risk, and then lets you be an adult and choose to continue to use the app if that's what you want to do. The best part is that the Current Account Switching Service makes it very easy to make the jump from a legacy bank like HSBC.

This was not my lived experience. I wanted to use the most common banks and most would not let me use it.

Chip contacted me at one point via their live assistant randomly without my doing and told me to stop using the app because they would soon be enforcing that rooted devices would no longer work. I continued to use the app rooted and nothing came of it.

Barclaycard, Nationwide and others don't let you use the app or require some circumvention of their detection to allow access.

Sure there are plenty of other apps, but those apps and banks have a worse product I found.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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That's Google's SafeNet. HSBC picked a level that causes this. Google manages the blacklist of apps. We are rapidly losing our freedoms to the will of these companies. If they decide they don't want to they can even if the law doesn't forbid it. People in Switzerland and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD. The US has started to sancti…

Do you think US pressure is behind the push for online censorship across the West? It seems to be a coordinated effort in many countries, whatever it is.

Of course it is. Trump is actively trying to censor LGBTQ events and DEI at European companies, they will get blacklisted from selling anything to the US federal government.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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That's Google's SafeNet. HSBC picked a level that causes this. Google manages the blacklist of apps. We are rapidly losing our freedoms to the will of these companies. If they decide they don't want to they can even if the law doesn't forbid it. People in Switzerland and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD. The US has started to sancti…

"sanction people for free speech"

Not sure how this is the top post on this thread, no links nothing but misinformation and FUD.

What happens in Switzerland to non US citizens is not a free speech issue no matter how you want to twist it.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unless they're Russia-related somehow this is doing a lot of work. at what point person stops being Russia related in your view?

Having no ties to businesses or individuals located in Russia. Like myself and countless of others.

> have ties

This is doing a lot of work. at what point person starts or stops having ties with russia?

if you have any siblings or parents or grandparents or cousins or classmates or ex girlfriends who are living in Russia?

I know a bunch of foreigners with stronger ties to Russia than some of my Russian friends by this logic my friend;) especially Ukrainians and Israelis but really anywhere in the world. debank them all you say?

What it sounds like is the old USSR way "make sure most people are guilty of something so that if you want to press them you always have some excuse"

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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That's Google's SafeNet. HSBC picked a level that causes this. Google manages the blacklist of apps. We are rapidly losing our freedoms to the will of these companies. If they decide they don't want to they can even if the law doesn't forbid it. People in Switzerland and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD. The US has started to sancti…

Do you think US pressure is behind the push for online censorship across the West? It seems to be a coordinated effort in many countries, whatever it is.

The US doesn't need to pressure other nations to apply online censorship, because Facebook, Reddit, Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, Twitch, Google and Apple app stores, Steam and suchlike are all American, and censored in line with American norms.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Isn't it funny how most banking apps do all this borderline malware crap, yet most banks also have online banking that you use through a web browser that they have no technical means of "trusting"?

Keep in mind this is also often caused by arbitrary "security" consultants that crap out a list of stuff you need to implement. Like jailbreak detection and the like.

One I repeatedly got back in the day was hilarious: "After uninstalling the app credentials stay present in the keychain". Yes thanks genius, I don't get to run code on uninstall.

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