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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by KeplerBoy »

sfn42 wrote: post #240
KeplerBoy wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TV shows changed completely in the streaming age it seems. These days they really are just super long movies with glacial pacing to keep users subscribed.

As opposed to the House model where every episode is exactly the same with some superficial differences? I like the long movie format, lots of good shows to watch. Movies feel too short to properly tell a story. It's just like a few highlights hastily shown and then it's over.

Sure, it's completely different from procedural comedic shows like House and there's some great shows to watch!

Still, sometimes it feels like the writers weren't granted enough time to write a shorter script. Brevity isn't exactly incentivized by the business model.

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Post by mnky9800n »

sfn42 wrote: post #240
KeplerBoy wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TV shows changed completely in the streaming age it seems. These days they really are just super long movies with glacial pacing to keep users subscribed.

As opposed to the House model where every episode is exactly the same with some superficial differences? I like the long movie format, lots of good shows to watch. Movies feel too short to properly tell a story. It's just like a few highlights hastily shown and then it's over.

I feel like there are plenty of examples of movies that tell a good story. I think the reason people like long form television over movies is a movie requires an emotional commitment that it will end. But there’s always another episode of television.

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Post by timc3 »

szszrk wrote: post #212
redox99 wrote: post #105

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Never had an issue with Stranger Things. Maybe you're using the internal speakers?

> Maybe you're using the internal speakers? Which is just another drama that should not be on consumers shoulders. Every time I visit friends with newer TV than mine I am floored by how bad their speakers are. Even the same brand and price-range. Plus the "AI sound" settings (often on by default) are really bad. I'd love to swap my old tv as it shows it's age, but spending a lot of money on a new one that can't play…

There are a couple of models with good sound. I got a Philips OLED910 a short while ago and that sound system surprised me.

I turned it off though and use an external Atmos receiver and speakers.

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Post by giorgioz »

avazhi wrote: post #15

Thanks for the thought but from what I’ve heard from friends I’ll be keeping the final season unwatched just like I did with the last 2 episodes of GoT.

Yes I also let my girlfriend skip the last two episodes. Tyrion Lannister did say "if you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention".

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

omnicognate wrote: post #258

It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

The purpose of the naming is generally to overwhelm consumers and drive long term repeat buys. You can’t remember if your tv has the fitzbuzz, but you’re damn sure this fancy new tv in the store looks a hell of a lot better than you’re current tv and there really pushing this fitzbuzz thing.

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Post by mnky9800n »

pmdr wrote: post #264

He's right about the settings. Why would these be the default? Who watches TV that way? Unfortunately settings won't help Season 5 be any better, it verges on being garbage itself, a profound drop in quality compared to previous seasons.

Let’s just have Sarah Connor be in it for no reason being angry all the time for no reason.

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Post by arnaudsm »

DoctorWhoof wrote: post #163
eviks wrote: post #148

Are there any creators that evolved and shoot at high frame rates that eliminate the need for motion interpolation and its artifacts or is the grip of the bad old film culture still too strong? (there are at least some 48fps films)

Most of the issues (like "judder") that people have with 24fps are due to viewing it on 60 fps screens, which will sometimes double a frame, sometimes triple it, creating uneven motion. Viewing a well shot film with perfect, expressive motion blur on a proper film screen is surprisingly smooth. The "soap opera" feel is NOT from bad interpolation that can somehow be done right. It's inherent from the high frame rate.…

Variable refresh rate displays are becoming popular in smartphones and PCs, hopefully this won't be a technical issue soon.

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Post by KeplerBoy »

sfn42 wrote: post #252
szszrk wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe you're using the internal speakers? Which is just another drama that should not be on consumers shoulders. Every time I visit friends with newer TV than mine I am floored by how bad their speakers are. Even the same brand and price-range. Plus the "AI sound" settings (often on by default) are really bad. I'd love to swap my old tv as it shows it's age, but spending a lot of money on a new one that can't play…

I am floored that people really expect integrated TV speakers to be good.

Couldn't they be miles better if we allowed screens to be thicker than a few millimeters?

I believe one could do some fun stuff with waveguides and beam steering behind the screen if we had 2 inch thick screens. Unfortunately decent audio is harder to market and showcase in a bestbuy than a "vivid" screen.

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Post by Shorel »

opan wrote: post #224
Shorel wrote: post #109

Anyone who mentions: "the soap opera effect" is someone who used to watch soap operas. The reason they dislike it, is their own bad taste. I like how it looks because it is "high quality videogame effect" for me. 60 hz, 120hz, 144hz, you only get this on a good videogame setup.

Real high framerate is one thing, but the TV setting is faking it with interpolation. There's not really a good reason to do this, it's trickery to deceive you. Recording a video at 60fps is fine, but that's just not what TV and movies do in reality. No one is telling you to watch something at half the intended framerate, just the actual framerate.

In principle, I agree with you.

I would vastly prefer original material at high frame rates instead of interpolation.

But I remember the backslash against “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” because it was filmed at 48 Hz, and that makes me think that people dislike high frame rate content no matter the source, so my comment also covers these cases.

Also, because of that public response, we don't have more content actually filmed at high frame rates =)

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