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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

Never had an issue with Stranger Things. Maybe you're using the internal speakers?

Most people do, I reckon.

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Anyone who mentions: "the soap opera effect" is someone who used to watch soap operas. The reason they dislike it, is their own bad taste. I like how it looks because it is "high quality videogame effect" for me. 60 hz, 120hz, 144hz, you only get this on a good videogame setup.

Films use cheap set dec and materials. They use lighting and makeup tricks. If you watch at a higher frame rate, the mistakes become obvious rather than melting into the frames. Humans look plastic and fake. The people that are masters of light and photography make intentional choices for a reason. You can cook your steak well done if you like, but that's not how you're supposed to eat it. A steak is not a burger. A…

> You can cook your steak well done if you like, but that's not how you're supposed to eat it.

Did you read an interview with the cow’s creator?

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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I read a lot of comments here that freeze my blood, what needs to be said is that there is something called creative intent.

For those unfamiliar with the term you should watch Vincent Teoh @ HDTVTest:

https://www.youtube.com/hdtvtest

Creative intent refers to the goal of displaying content on a TV precisely as the original director or colorist intended it to be seen in the studio or cinema.

A lot of work is put into this and the fact that many TVs nowadays come with terrible default settings doesn't help.

We have a whole generation who actually prefer the colors all maxed out with motion smoothing etc. turned to 11 but that's like handing the Mona Lisa to some rando down the street to improve it with crayons.

At the end of the day it's disrespectful to the creator and the artwork itself.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

English is my second language and I always though my lack of understanding was a skill issue. Then I noticed that native speakers also complain. Then I started to watch YouTube channels, live TV and old movies, and I found out I could understand almost everything! (depending on the dialect) When even native speakers can't properly enjoy modern movies and TV shows, you know that something is very wrong...

I "upgraded" from a 10 year old 1080p Vizio to a 4K LG and the sound is the worst part of the experience. It was very basic and consistent with our old TV but now it's all over the place. It's now a mangled mess of audio that's hard to understand.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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If only the directors didn't make everything so dark and hard to see. Also stopped messing with sound, making it impossible to hear dialogues.

I've watched Silo season 2 and it is basically impossible to watch it during the day. Only at night, with brightness cranked up to 100%.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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All the settings in the world won't change the story.

Careful what you wish for, or we might get AI-powered "Vibrant Story" filters that reduce 62 minutes of plot-less filler to a 5 minute summary of the only relevant points. Or that try to generate some logic to make the magic in the story make narrative sense.

I just said to a friend that the season 5 writing is so bad that I think AI would have done a better job. I hope someone tries that out once we get the final episode: Give an LLM the scripts for the first 4 seasons, the outcome frome the finale, and let it have a go and drafting a better season 5.

And no, I'm not talking about the gay thing. The writing is simply atrocious. Numerous plot holes, leaps of reasoning, and terrible character interactions.

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The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

Perhaps a mixing issue on your end? Multi-channel audio has the dialog track separated. So you can increase the volume of the dialog if you want. Unfortunately I think there is variability in hardware (and software players) in how to down-mix, which sometimes results in background music in the surround channels drowning out the dialog in the centre channel.

It's an issue even in theaters and is the main reason I prefer to watch new releases at home on DVD (Dune I saw in the theater, Dune 2 I watched at home.)

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Thanks for the thought but from what I’ve heard from friends I’ll be keeping the final season unwatched just like I did with the last 2 episodes of GoT.

It’s very bad.

All of the characters are constantly arguing with each other. The story line requires constant suspension of belief based on the endless succession of improbable events and improbable character behaviors. Contradictions with earlier episodes and even details within the same episode. It's really bad. I hope the final episode redeems it but I have my doubts. I want to have an LLM rewrite season 5 and see how much it improves.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Thanks for the thought but from what I’ve heard from friends I’ll be keeping the final season unwatched just like I did with the last 2 episodes of GoT.

It's almost like you're living in an alternate universe where everything is just a little bit better.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The soap opera effect is only a problem because no one is used to it. Higher FPS is objectively better. These motion interpolation settings are now ubiquitous and pretty much nobody cares about said effect anymore, which is great, because maybe now we can start having movies above 24FPS. To preempt replies: ask yourself why 24 frames per second is optimal for cinema instead of just being an ancient spec that everyone…

Films rely on 24 fps or, rather, low motion resolution to help suspend disbelief. There are things that the viewer are not meant to see or at least see clearly. Yes, part of that specific framerate is nostalgia and what the audience expects a movie to look like, but it holds a purpose. Higher frame rates are superior for shooting reality. But for something that is fictional it helps the audience suspend their disbeli…

Does the suspension break in games, which are not reality? Is there any evidence lower quality is better?
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