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I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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I Spend 0. I don't understand why anyone would need most of these services.

Try reading more books, eg autobiographies or fiction. Understanding other people’s perspectives is a skill like any other.

Maybe you should take your own advise and try to understand his perspective.

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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I Spend 0. I don't understand why anyone would need most of these services.

Try reading more books, eg autobiographies or fiction. Understanding other people’s perspectives is a skill like any other.

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Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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I have fully bought into Apple’s ecosystem. It’s a walled garden but it’s a pretty nice walled garden, and of all the big tech companies, they are better about privacy (not perfect, but better) than most. I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized.

It sure is a nice walled garden, but it can also be pretty restrictive: You can’t subscribe to iCloud from a regular browser, which makes those privacy benefits inaccessible from Linux, while Apple is perfectly happy to take my payment info for Apple Music or Apple TV.

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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They moved from platform A to platform B.

They moved from platform USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. That's a big deal to some of us. Especially important it the demonstration that your privacy which Google et al, are so insistent on monetizing, does not mean they are charging you less for the same services that other companies can charge when you are paying only with your money, not your privacy as well.

I'd rather Google have my data than the EU

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They moved from platform USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. That's a big deal to some of us. Especially important it the demonstration that your privacy which Google et al, are so insistent on monetizing, does not mean they are charging you less for the same services that other companies can charge when you are paying only with your money, not your privacy as well.

I'd rather Google have my data than the EU

That's a choice. But it's not everyone's choice. And with , the non-USA choice is rapidly becoming more popular - at least among the people I know and talk to outside the US.

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather Google have my data than the EU

That's a choice. But it's not everyone's choice. And with , the non-USA choice is rapidly becoming more popular - at least among the people I know and talk to outside the US.

EU has always and always will be moving away from US tech

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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I’m heavily invested in the Google ecosystem and nothing would make me happier than switching to a privacy-focused European alternative. However, the value of the Google Workspace* mid-tier (approx. 15€) is hard to beat, I think. I get: - granular domain \ email controls (blocklists, routing rules, etc.) - 2tb of google drive space - and now Gemini, which is quite nice It’s 2025, and I’m still finding it impossible t…

It’s far from impossible, you just have to prioritize your privacy at more than a few bucks a month.

If it was just privacy it would be an easy sell but there is nothing close to a fully functional alternative then Microsoft.

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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I have fully bought into Apple’s ecosystem. It’s a walled garden but it’s a pretty nice walled garden, and of all the big tech companies, they are better about privacy (not perfect, but better) than most. I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized.

> When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized.

I've got a bridge to sell you if you think Apple isn't doing the exact same thing. What do you think they are doing with all their focus on their ad business?

Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year

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They moved from platform A to platform B.

They moved from platform USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. That's a big deal to some of us. Especially important it the demonstration that your privacy which Google et al, are so insistent on monetizing, does not mean they are charging you less for the same services that other companies can charge when you are paying only with your money, not your privacy as well.

I mean I don't think anyone seriously thinks the USA doesn't have access to all the EU data.
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