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Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by pranavm27 »

spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

Its good that way right? Let me as a human do the interesting thinking for which my brains are meant while you AI do what they chips were built for.

I am happy as is tbh, not even looking for AGI and all. Just that the LLM be close enough to my thinking scale so that it does not feel "why am I talking with this robot".

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by anthonypasq »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #69
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

Forget utterly groundbreaking things, I want to hear maintainers of complex, actively developed, and widely used open-source projects (e.g. ffmpeg, curl, openssh, sqlite) start touting a massive uptick in positive contributions, pointing to a concrete influx of high-quality AI-assisted commits. If AI is indeed a 10x force multiplier, shouldn't these projects have seen 10 years' worth of development in the last year?…

the creator of claude code said on twitter he hasnt opened an ide in a month and merged 200 prs.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by MontyCarloHall »

spzb wrote: post #80
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's no different from supervising a naïve junior engineer who also copy/pastes from 15 year old SO posts (a tale as old as time): you need to carefully review and actually grok the code the junior/AI writes. Sometimes this ends up taking longer than writing it yourself, sometimes it doesn't. As with all decisions in delegating work, the trick is knowing ahead of time whether this will be the case.

Naive junior engineers eventually learn and become competent senior engineers. LLMs forget everything they "learn" as soon as the context window gets too big.

Very true! I liken AI to having an endless supply of newly hired interns with near-infinite knowledge but intern-level skills.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by BobbyJo »

boplicity wrote: post #75
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

> Let's see something ground-breaking Why? People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls. AI coding tools can be incredibly powerful -- but shouldn't that power be focused on what the tool is actually good at? There are many, many times that AI coding tools can and should be used to create a "small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data." I do things like this very…

Yes! I can't tell you the number of times I thought to myself "If only there was a way for this problem to be solved once instead of being solved over and over again". If that is the only thing AI is good at, then it's still a big step up for software IMO.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by spzb »

SJMG wrote: post #60
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

https://thenewstack.io/how-deepminds-alphatensor-ai-devised-... Not either of the species of algorithms you've described, but still an advance.

That's about as far removed from vibe coding as you can get. It's the result of an algorithm developed for a specific purpose by researchers at one of the most advanced machine learning companies.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by ncallaway »

boplicity wrote: post #75
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

> Let's see something ground-breaking Why? People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls. AI coding tools can be incredibly powerful -- but shouldn't that power be focused on what the tool is actually good at? There are many, many times that AI coding tools can and should be used to create a "small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data." I do things like this very…

> People keep asking AI coding tools to be something other than what they currently are.

I think it's for a very reasonable reason: the AI coding tool salespeople are often selling the tools as something other than what they currently are.

I think you're right, that if you calibrate your expectations to what the tools are capable of, there's definitely. It would be nice if the marketing around AI also did the same thing.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by yoz-y »

At some point I also made a virtual bookshelf but for a different reason: I found that I often didn’t remember what I read about. So I started taking notes while reading and also making pixel art covers for the books I’ve written about. I feel that writing down ideas makes it easier to revisit them.

https://yozy.net/books/

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by dboreham »

spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

This comment is wrong in two ways:

1. Current LLMs do much better than produce "small programs that already exist in multiple forms in the training data". Of course the knowledge they use does need to exist somewhere in training data, but they operate at a higher level of abstraction than simply spitting out programs they've already seen whole cloth. Way higher.

2. Inventing a new compression algorithm is beyond the expectations of all but the the most wild-eyed LLM proponents, today.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by boplicity »

boplicity wrote: post #75
spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

> Let's see something ground-breaking Why? People don't ask hammers to do much more than bash in nails into walls. AI coding tools can be incredibly powerful -- but shouldn't that power be focused on what the tool is actually good at? There are many, many times that AI coding tools can and should be used to create a "small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data." I do things like this very…

To be clear, I see a lot of "magical thinking" among people who promote AI. They imagine a "perfect" AI tool that can basically do everything better than a human can.

Maybe this is possible. Maybe not.

However, it's a fantasy. Granted, it is a compelling fantasy. But its not one based on reality.

A good example:

"AI will probably be smarter than any single human next year. By 2029, AI is probably smarter than all humans combined.” -- Elon Musk

This is, of course, ridiculous. But, why should we let reality get in the way of a good fantasy?

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Post by skrotumnisse »

spzb wrote: post #56

I am yet to see a vibe coded success that isn't a small program that already exists in multiple forms in the training data. Let's see something ground-breaking. If AI coding is so great and is going to take us to 10x or 100x productivity let's see it generate a new, highly efficient compression algorithm or a state-of-art travelling salesman solution.

I find this type of comment depressing. This is a time for exploration and learning new things. This is a prefect way to do so. It’s a small project that solves the problem. Better time spent vibe coding it then to evaluate existing alternatives.
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