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Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by fraud »

I was very lonely my first two years of college. I moved across the country to California for school and I don’t think 10 people knew my name by the end of my 2nd year. It was borderline debilitating and honestly reading your comment brings back a lot of those memories. The two things that helped me were getting off my phone/internet and going to therapy. Your things will most likely be different. A lot of people will tell you to join clubs etc. This is more or less the right answer with the caveat being that you most likely will not make “real” friends from these if you’re not open to connection. I was in jazz ensemble my first two years of college and made 0 friends. It wasn’t until after therapy/getting into a relationship with someone from a dating app that I started making friends. Probably from the increased confidence? Not sure. I’m now a senior and I’m just starting to actually develop “real” friendships.

Feel free to reach me at alexbwell12 at gmail dot com. Don’t have any crazy wisdom to pass down — just know how much it sucked for me.

Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by jwrallie »

People will suggest what works for them, sometimes it will apply, often it will not. You have to find what works for you, and maybe multiple times because once you graduate, you will find yourself back in the same situation.

The best suggestion I received was to imagine where I wanted to be long term, and to go on working on that. Somehow it took me out of the loop of trying to find an answer outside of my own self.

The other thing that helped was to stop trying to do the same as what others around are (saying they are) doing and be honest with myself and others about what I wanted.

Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by Triphibian »

My main advice would be to make NONE of this about you. Be genuinely curious about others. Really listen to them. Look in their eyes when they are talking to you and when you are talking to them. Completely put the notion of you needing or lacking friends in the backseat and put an interest and genuine caring about the lives of random people you meet in the front.

You can't go into this with the goal of gaining something. Go in with the goal of giving of yourself -- your time, attention and interest.

Do the reps on this and you will become a person people want to be around.

Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by mayukh »

Not exhaustive by any means but here some ideas:

  > To make friends, be one -- figure out what this means 
  > Be vulnerable -- the quickest way to connection I have found is to be ok with sharing your vulnerability first  
  > Be ok with rejection -- the danger of being vulnerable is getting rejected, be ok with that. Plenty of fish in the sea
  > Love yourself -- learn to give yourself grace
  > Practice gratitude
  > Serve/Volunteer/Teach -- you have unique valuable skills, figure out what they are and help others
  > Join clubs that excite you -- if none exist create one. (derek sivers: how to start a movement, consider being the second person)
  > Find your tribe online -- if none exist create one (see above)
Focus on physical and mental well being, life is long and one never knows the turns, the ups and downs that will come about -- learn to be resilient and don't lose your sense of humor

Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by llmslave2 »

Regardless of who you are, the world is a big place and there are millions of people who are very similar to you, who you would get along great with and could form meaningful relationships with. I think it's very important that you fight the urge to attribute your loneliness to anything intrinsic to who you are as a person. You don't need to be pretty, funny, or smart to make friends and have meaningful, deep relationships. Like seriously, it's extremely important to understand that it really doesn't have anything to do with you.

One mistake I made when I was in university was have a baseline assumption that I was unlikable or similarly flawed, hence I would always find reasons why someone disliked me and pushed them away as a defence mechanism. Regardless of if it's true it's a horribly unproductive mindset to have and I encourage you to fight it.

Also you won't make friends by reading books. It's tempting to overanalyse but human connection isn't something you learn by reading, you learn it by doing it. A bunch. Go travel and see the world.

Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by cko »

This may not make you feel better, but I was lonely until maybe age 25. That was the year I graduated and started my first job and made my first two real friends. Before that I sat alone in the back of the lecture hall in University and hated on all the fun-having classmates.

Age 25 was also when I met my first girlfriend that lasted less than a year. Age 34 was when I met my second girlfriend, who became my wife, and how we are separated. Long story short, I'm pretty content with my life now. You can say I'm a bit of a late bloomer.

I thought I would be alone forever too, so much so that in college I aspired to be a Buddhist monk.

What helped me was learning how to be less socially awkward through work interactions. When I was 32 I solo backpacked Europe which made me seem like a more interesting person. Also I'm a bit of a people pleaser and I was helpful to some key people in my life and they are now my good friends. Also I saved and invested a good chunk of my income which kind of helps overall with confidence.

> People find me funny and when I do talk to people we have decent conversations (though small talk tends to bore me). However that doesn’t lead anywhere and doesn’t bring me any kind of comfort or fulfillment. I’ve attributed my lack of friends to something that places all the blame on me. Maybe I’m ugly, maybe I’m not funny enough, maybe I’m dumb.

I've felt all those things at some point. You don't have to be attractive or funny or a genius. I've always walked around with these recurring fantasies of being some secretly impressive superhero that saved the day publicly or had all these amazing talents and everyone would realize my worth. I realize now that everyone is too into their own lives to care, and even if they seem to admire something about you, they see it from the perspective of how it benefits themselves. This is absolutely fine, and human.

I guess what I'm saying is that you'll grow out of this phase. Right now I have all the friends I could ever want, ironically at a phase I'm my life I want to be more solitary.

Re: Ask HN: Loneliness at 19, how to cope?

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Post by AstroNutt »

bdcravens wrote: post #8

Some of these ideas are possibly terrible, but just a brain dump: I'd pop your head into random events in college, even if it's groups you don't feel align with you. Try some courses that tend to require higher levels of interaction (like theatre) I wouldn't join a fraternity, but that's a way some connect with others. Turn yourself into a billboard, wearing T-shirts for things you like (bands, geeky things, etc). A…

"Turn yourself into a billboard, wearing T-shirts for things you like (bands, geeky things, etc). A "cool shirt" comment can start a conversation" .

I met my best friend of 30 years by wearing a Rush tee-shirt. It started a conversation.

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