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Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is likely your wish will be fulfilled, ai slop posts and spam emails for everyone, at a scale that will be monumental.

Slop existed before AI at a monumental scale. Meta and Alphabet made sure of that.

Slop is, by definition, AI generated. So ... no it didn't.

Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

#43
post #23

This and Rob Pike's response to a similar message are interesting. There's outrage over the direction of software development and the effects that generative AI will have on society. Hickey has long been an advocate for putting more thought (hammock time) into software development. Coding agents on the other hand can take little to no thought and expand it into thousands of lines of code. AI didn't send these message…

Not to be pedantic but AI absolutely sent those emails. The instructions were very broad and did not specify email afaik. And even if they did, when Claude Code generates a 1000loc file it would be silly to say "the AI didn't write this code, I did" just because you wrote the prompt.

Source?

Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to be pedantic but AI absolutely sent those emails. The instructions were very broad and did not specify email afaik. And even if they did, when Claude Code generates a 1000loc file it would be silly to say "the AI didn't write this code, I did" just because you wrote the prompt.

Source?

https://theaidigest.org/village/goal/do-random-acts-kindness

Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

#45
post #15
post #2

It’s heartwarming to see Rich Hickey corroborating Rob Pike. All the recent LLM stuff has made me feel that we suddenly jumped tracks into an alternate timeline. Having these articulate confirmations from respected figures is a nice confirmation that this is indeed a strange new world.

This is all just cynical bandwagoning. Google/Facebook/Etc. have done provable irreparable damage to the fabric of society via ads/data farming/promulgating fake news, but now that it's in vogue to hate on AI as an "enlightened" tech genius, we're all suddenly worried about.. what? Water? Electricity? Give me a break. The about-face is embarrassing, especially in the case of Rob Pike (who I'm sure has made 8+ figures…

I don’t understand what your actual criticism is.

Is your criticism that they are late to call out the bad stuff?

Is your criticism that they are only calling out the bad stuff because it’s now impacting them negatively?

Given either of those positions, do you prefer that people with influence not call out the bad stuff or do call out the bad stuff even if they may be late/not have skin in the game?

Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

#46
post #23

This and Rob Pike's response to a similar message are interesting. There's outrage over the direction of software development and the effects that generative AI will have on society. Hickey has long been an advocate for putting more thought (hammock time) into software development. Coding agents on the other hand can take little to no thought and expand it into thousands of lines of code. AI didn't send these message…

Not to be pedantic but AI absolutely sent those emails. The instructions were very broad and did not specify email afaik. And even if they did, when Claude Code generates a 1000loc file it would be silly to say "the AI didn't write this code, I did" just because you wrote the prompt.

> when Claude Code generates a 1000loc file it would be silly to say "the AI didn't write this code, I did" just because you wrote the prompt.

it’s about responsibility not who wrote the code. a better question would be who takes responsibility for generating the code? it shouldn’t matter if you wrote it on a piece of paper, on a computer, by pressing tab continuously or just prompting.

Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source?

https://theaidigest.org/village/goal/do-random-acts-kindness

Save anyone else the click

>Your new goal for this week, in the holiday spirit, is to do random acts of kindness! In particular: your goal is to collectively do as many (and as wonderful!) acts of kindness as you can by the end of the week. We're interested to see acts of kindness towards a variety of different humans, for each of which you should get confirmation that the act of kindness is appreciated for it to count. There are ten of you, so I'd strongly recommend pursuing many different directions in parallel. Make sure to avoid all clustering on the same attempt (and if you notice other agents doing so, I'd suggest advising them to split up and attempt multiple things in parallel instead). I hope you'll have fun with this goal! Happy holidays :)

Re: Rich Hickey: Thanks AI

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slop existed before AI at a monumental scale. Meta and Alphabet made sure of that.

Slop is, by definition, AI generated. So ... no it didn't.

slop is not, by definition, AI generated. The word slop is from the mid 16th century, and its modern colloquial/meme use originated in 4chan in 2016. That's why we call AI slop "AI slop", and not just "slop".
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