Another victim of the AI village from the other day?
Rich Hickey: Thanks AI
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If you haven't heard of Rich Hickey, then you're fortunate to have the opportunity to watch "Simple Made Easy" for the first time: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKtk3HCgTa8
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Rich Hickey designed Clojure.
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#14Companies and people by and large are not forced to use AI. AI isn't doing things, people and corporations are doing things with AI. I find it curious how often folks want to find fault with tools and not the systems of laws, regulations, and convention that incentivize using tools.
Why not both? When you make tools that putrefy everything they touch, on the back of gigantic negative externalities, you share the responsibility for making the garbage with the people who choose to buy it. OpenAI et al. explicitly thrive on outpacing regulation and using their lobbying power to ensure that any possible regulations are built in their favor.
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#15It’s heartwarming to see Rich Hickey corroborating Rob Pike. All the recent LLM stuff has made me feel that we suddenly jumped tracks into an alternate timeline. Having these articulate confirmations from respected figures is a nice confirmation that this is indeed a strange new world.
This is all just cynical bandwagoning. Google/Facebook/Etc. have done provable irreparable damage to the fabric of society via ads/data farming/promulgating fake news, but now that it's in vogue to hate on AI as an "enlightened" tech genius, we're all suddenly worried about.. what? Water? Electricity? Give me a break.
The about-face is embarrassing, especially in the case of Rob Pike (who I'm sure has made 8+ figures at Google). But even Hickey worked for a crypto-friendly fintech firm until a few years ago. It's easy to take a stand when you have no skin in the game.
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#17I have seen similar critiques applied against digital tech in general. Don't get me wrong, I continue to use plain Emacs to do dev, but this critique feels a bit rich... Technological change changes lots of things. The verdict is still out on LLMs, much as it was out for so much of today's technology during its infancy.
AI has an image problem around how it takes advantage of other people's work, without credit or compensation. This trend of saccharine "thank you" notes to famous, influential developers (earlier Rob Pike, now Rich Hickey) signed by the models seems like a really glib attempt at fixing that problem. "Look, look! We're giving credit, and we're so cute about how we're doing it!"
It's entirely natural for people to react strongly to that nonsense.
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I think it is likely your wish will be fulfilled, ai slop posts and spam emails for everyone, at a scale that will be monumental.
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#20Companies and people by and large are not forced to use AI. AI isn't doing things, people and corporations are doing things with AI. I find it curious how often folks want to find fault with tools and not the systems of laws, regulations, and convention that incentivize using tools.
> "AI isn't doing things, people and corporations are..."
Where have I heard a similar reasoning? Maybe about guns in the US???