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Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be that the mushroom just temporarily interferes with the substances the elves put in our water supply to keep us in the dark?

exactly, the real question is what the elves are doing while they’re unseen.

They keep the universe running.

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SWIM would like to know how to get paid as (instead of paying to be) "an expert who explores new mushrooms".

Someone Who Isn't Me?

Yes, this was a common phrase in early psychedelic and other drug experience sharing forums. Like a verbal talisman people believe kept them from incriminating themselves. I haven't thought about it in years. Delightful.

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be that the mushroom just temporarily interferes with the substances the elves put in our water supply to keep us in the dark?

exactly, the real question is what the elves are doing while they’re unseen.

Making toys, caring for reindeer, sleight maintenance, ...

And spook work for His Jolliness' Secret Service, to keep their Naughty and Nice databases current.

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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Incredible! A mushroom that bruises blue, but the visions are seemingly unlike traditional tryptamines, and there's no psilocybin found in the mushroom. Also no muscimol present (the thing in Fly Agaric, the 'other' type of hallucinogenic mushroom compound) yet there's definitely a consistent syndrome of hallucinations if you eat it undercooked.

Could this mean we're on the brink of discovering an entirely new class of hallucinogens?

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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It is interesting how the hallucinations consistently represent tiny people/elves to the mushroom consumer, even across geography/culture. I wonder what the brain is doing…

Could be that the mushroom just temporarily interferes with the substances the elves put in our water supply to keep us in the dark?

This is some real antimemetics stuff here :) (https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/antimemetics-division-hub if you're not familiar)

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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It is interesting how the hallucinations consistently represent tiny people/elves to the mushroom consumer, even across geography/culture. I wonder what the brain is doing…

These mushrooms are small, these elves are far away.

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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SWIM would like to know how to get paid as (instead of paying to be) "an expert who explores new mushrooms".

I always feel like they should bring along an artist for the trip so we can get a visual depiction of what it was like

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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Incredible! A mushroom that bruises blue, but the visions are seemingly unlike traditional tryptamines, and there's no psilocybin found in the mushroom. Also no muscimol present (the thing in Fly Agaric, the 'other' type of hallucinogenic mushroom compound) yet there's definitely a consistent syndrome of hallucinations if you eat it undercooked. Could this mean we're on the brink of discovering an entirely new class…

From the Wikipedia

> In 2023, Lanmaoa asiatica received international media attention after U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen was reported to have eaten a dish that contained it during an official visit to China. Yellen stated that the dish had been thoroughly cooked, and she experienced no ill effects (hallucinations).

It seems Rubroboletus sinicus, another bolete, is also suspected to have this effect. These hallucinogenic mushrooms are collectively known as "xiao ren ren" in China.

They seem to be relatively well known in parts of China, the Philippines, and Papua New Guinea but the ethnomycological work in English is just not really there.

It also seems like it's most likely something in the tryptamine class which could explain the blue bruising. The Wikipedia page has more info

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogenic_bolete_mushroom

Re: Experts explore new mushroom which causes fairytale-like hallucinations

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Incredible! A mushroom that bruises blue, but the visions are seemingly unlike traditional tryptamines, and there's no psilocybin found in the mushroom. Also no muscimol present (the thing in Fly Agaric, the 'other' type of hallucinogenic mushroom compound) yet there's definitely a consistent syndrome of hallucinations if you eat it undercooked. Could this mean we're on the brink of discovering an entirely new class…

> mushroom sized > blue when bruised > make see small fairy people

did they found the schtroumpf village ?

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