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ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

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Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#41

Asking as a foreigner who wants to travel to Cali to visit the Computer History Museum sometimes in the future: What is the plan for ICE? Is it going to get more manpower and $$$ to expand its responsibility?

ICE has more funding than the USMC.

Go to a country that deserves your tourism, US is not worth visiting.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#44
On the face of it, it looks similar to israeli border guards and cops in the West Bank.

Paramilitary, high tech equipment, close to zero accountability. It's not far off that the people they're snatching don't have any legal means to fight it either, similar to how palestinians are held in 'administrative detention' and only have access to extremely corrupt military courts.

I suspect that negotiation is not going to get either states or popular movements very far against this threat.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#45

Its pretty clear that ICE is being used as a means of forming an industry similar to that of the Military Industrial complex, but focused on law-enforcement and domestic action. What alarms me here is that once a certain level of investment and industry is built, it will necessitate a means of self-sustaining itself and will attempt to find this through political investment. I fully expect a domestic version of the "…

ICE is MAGA’s analogue to the SS.

Diehards specifically recruited for their commitment to the cause.

They will be the ones making jokes while digging mass graves.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#46
post #23

Its pretty clear that ICE is being used as a means of forming an industry similar to that of the Military Industrial complex, but focused on law-enforcement and domestic action. What alarms me here is that once a certain level of investment and industry is built, it will necessitate a means of self-sustaining itself and will attempt to find this through political investment. I fully expect a domestic version of the "…

It's actually about white supremacy and turning the US into a Christofascist ethnostate but y'all aren't ready to take that conversation seriously. The militarization of domestic policing and surveillance is just a means to an end.

I see the Christofascism as more a flavor of the month than a serious unifying ideology. Religion has always been a tool used by those in power to gain favorability with people at scale. But history tells us it is easily manipulated and twisted to serve the needs of the powerful. (Crusades, Colonialism, Slavery, Conservatism)

Whatever Christofascism is today, will be boiled down to its fundamental components the moment it no longer serves the powerful so that it can be remade into whatever they need it to be. Think of it more as the rotting of one religion giving way to the fertile ground of new relgion.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

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I've been thinking a lot about ICE and how quickly we are escalating. I attend some minor protest and rallies against them but its not enough. I do like how Illinois has setup a commission to track accountability. https://ilac.illinois.gov/ I feel like those of us in the technology sector have a obligation to assist in the counter balance to the police state that is rapidly building up. After all the executives of ou…

There are plenty of opportunities but many rely on what are effectively "zero days" (some actually are) that aren't suitable for posting on a public forum.

Rather, go find leftist groups and get vetted to participate with them. You'll find like minded people, including other people working on technical countermeasures.

The groups are messy and sometimes incoherent (leftist infighting is a meme) but as of late they've become much more focused on a being pragmatic so nobody is going to make you quote marx or anything.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#49
post #23

Its pretty clear that ICE is being used as a means of forming an industry similar to that of the Military Industrial complex, but focused on law-enforcement and domestic action. What alarms me here is that once a certain level of investment and industry is built, it will necessitate a means of self-sustaining itself and will attempt to find this through political investment. I fully expect a domestic version of the "…

It's actually about white supremacy and turning the US into a Christofascist ethnostate but y'all aren't ready to take that conversation seriously. The militarization of domestic policing and surveillance is just a means to an end.

Most of these people will keep showing up to their cushy jobs at Google and FB while the data they spent decades harvesting is used to oppress their neighbors.

Re: ICE's interest in high-tech gear raises new questions: 'What is it for?'

#50

Its pretty clear that ICE is being used as a means of forming an industry similar to that of the Military Industrial complex, but focused on law-enforcement and domestic action. What alarms me here is that once a certain level of investment and industry is built, it will necessitate a means of self-sustaining itself and will attempt to find this through political investment. I fully expect a domestic version of the "…

ICE is MAGA’s analogue to the SS. Diehards specifically recruited for their commitment to the cause. They will be the ones making jokes while digging mass graves.

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