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Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by monerozcash » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:42 AM UTC

flohofwoe wrote: post #58

frankzander wrote: post #26

From year to year more politics and less interesting stuff.

Hacking and politics was always deeply intertwined in Germany/Europe. Especially the CCC has always been at least as much a political organization as it is a hacker community.

Hey, at least you can reasonably argue that the political content has been headed downhill since the more aggressive days of the past. Do we see wikileaks or the likes anymore? Not really.

Without direct action it's just nerds reading out their blog posts about politics, which couldn't be less interesting.

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by Gud » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:46 AM UTC

elcapitan wrote: post #30

Foxboron wrote: post #9

https://streaming.media.ccc.de/39c3 All talks will be live streamed, and right after the talk is done you have a rough cut available instantly under "re-live" you can watch until the final recording is available; https://streaming.media.ccc.de/39c3/relive The final recording will appear under a day or two after the talk is held: https://media.ccc.de/c/39c3 EDIT: A different variant of the schedule with better filteri…

Ah, the filterable schedule would be even better if you could filter on multiple categories at once. I just want security/hardware/science, and then I would have to constantly switch around, which is worse than looking at the full schedule with the other categories included.

You can have multiple tabs open.

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by wunderwuzzi23 » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:47 AM UTC

Excited! It's such a great event.

I'm currently on a plane towards Hamburg and will be speaking on Day 2.

"Agentic ProbLLMs - Exploiting AI Computer-Use and Coding Agents"

https://events.ccc.de/congress/2025/hub/event/detail/agentic...

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by tannhaeuser » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:47 AM UTC

fredoliveira wrote: post #56

slurrpurr wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its regardlessly still computer-adjacent, not like the talk linked from 39c3 Ok let me rephrase then if you didn’t understand my point: Its getting too filled with politics that don’t have anything to do with computers

Can you point to some?

Not sure the number is up from last year (I think there are fewer O/T talks this year even) but there are many talks that have nothing to do with hacking even if some of them might pigue my interest, such as the following:

https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/...

Then there are topics merely having "computer" in them like everything in this day and age but aren't about hacking, and it's disappointing because I know for a fact other talks had to make room for these:

https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/...

and there are a couple more.

Not everything in "Hacker News" is on-topic either I guess.

The talks by e-celebs also don't bring in anything novel, like at all.

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by seethedeaduu » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:49 AM UTC

jasonvorhe wrote: post #49

frankzander wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this wasn't the point ... the point is that the whole thing is getting more and more political and less technical and fun. I was at the camp and some congresses in the past and they where always fun but nowadays it seems like it's like a political movement event for certain strands and ideologies and way less fun and interesting things (thou there are gems) and it seems that you have to think a certain way or at leas…

IMHO, CCC is completely defanged as a political institution. They went along with contact tracing because the local app was open source and somewhat secure and many of the regulars in local spaces people will cause lots of drama if you don't wear a mask in 2025. Most local hackerspaces I visited are basically green and leftist queer safe spaces where adults run around with stuffed animals. If that's what you're looki…

> where adults run around with stuffed animals.

Nice to see something as simple as this is enough to filter bigots away!

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by izacus » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:51 AM UTC

slurrpurr wrote: post #72

izacus wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you just became a righty and are only just now noticing that CCC folks always hated righties with passion.

Not supporting violence = "righty"?

Using right dogwhistles == righty.

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by slurrpurr » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:57 AM UTC

izacus wrote: post #86

slurrpurr wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not supporting violence = "righty"?

Using right dogwhistles == righty.

Genuinely, what do you mean

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by bwblabs » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 10:58 AM UTC

bwblabs wrote: post #28

shmeeed wrote: post #14

Me and some friends used to attend the CCC some 15-20 years ago. Back then, we just showed up at the entrance on the first day and bought our tickets there. This year we were toying with the idea of going for a revival. But man, did we underestimate how much this event has grown... Tickets in the second presale round were gone within 1-2 seconds. We didn't stand a chance. I feel like we failed the entry exam tbh. Any…

I've one ticket for sale (€190-255), since I bought two tickets (one € 255 supporter for myself and € 190 for partner) but also got a speaker ticket ( https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/... ), since speaker announcement was after the first round of sales via vouchers. So let me know if someone is interested in this ticket, see my GitHub for mail address. I know other speakers where even unawa…

Tickets are sold (to the first email that arrived at 10:25 CEST, and the second ticket of a friend who's also a speaker to the second mailer at 11:11 CEST).

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by bildung » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 AM UTC

frankzander wrote: post #33

pinkgolem wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this comment every year, and I am confused every time. There was no point in time where ccc or c3 was not an political event/organisation.

this wasn't the point ... the point is that the whole thing is getting more and more political and less technical and fun. I was at the camp and some congresses in the past and they where always fun but nowadays it seems like it's like a political movement event for certain strands and ideologies and way less fun and interesting things (thou there are gems) and it seems that you have to think a certain way or at leas…

Or perhaps you changed over the years?

Re: Fahrplan – 39C3

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Post by littlecranky67 » Fri, Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 AM UTC

frankzander wrote: post #26

From year to year more politics and less interesting stuff.

CCC was always political (very left to far left). Never understood why hacking has to be political in the first place.