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Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

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Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

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Holy freakin' hell that is an awful headline. This is a DONATION, nothing more. Canonical is not asking people to pay, it is asking people to donate if they are so inclined. The press releases states that Ubuntu is and always will be free. Use Ubuntu and want to give some money for it? Great. Donate. Now there is a way where previously there was none. Use Ubuntu and don't want to give money? Great. Don't donate. Don'…

I wish Ubuntu/Canonical would give you the option to donate somewhere else on their site besides via the download page. I set aside ~50$ per month to donate to open source projects. Until now I have not donated to ubuntu since they dont sport a regular donations page

It did, and googling for "donate to ubuntu" brought it up as the first hit. Still does, in fact, for now; the page no longer exists.

Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain the reasoning behind that?

To many people, Ubuntu represents nothing but a shiny front end build on top of the years of hard work spent on building Debian, the universal OS. These people (we) are willing to use Ubuntu, since it is pretty much the same thing, but they (we) will never go out and actively support the Ubuntu project as we believe that Debian is more deserving of our support.

Well, you could support both, apportioned however seems reasonable to you ... e.g. "Ok, Debian provide the bulk of the core system, so $50 to Debian, and Ubuntu does some good work tweaking the UI, adding shiny, and holding users' hands, so $5 to them."

Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

#34
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Presenting this screen before you can actually get the OS does not make much sense for new users. They won't know if "hardware support on more PCs" or "performance optimisations" will be any important for them. It'd be more sensible for this to show up as a built-in screen after you've used Ubuntu for a few months.

I think it would be a much better idea to have people give in the beginning, but instead of asking them where the money should go, tell them that their name will be included in the next release as a contributor on their site and in an "About Ubuntu" dialog in the desktop version and /etc/contributors on the server version where it lists the various levels of contributors and their names. This would encourage more businesses to give.

Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

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Presenting this screen before you can actually get the OS does not make much sense for new users. They won't know if "hardware support on more PCs" or "performance optimisations" will be any important for them. It'd be more sensible for this to show up as a built-in screen after you've used Ubuntu for a few months.

True, the issue in particular with "hardware support" is that the biggest problems desktop users seem to run into with Ubuntu is video drivers for nvidia/ATI and it doesn't seem like there's much canonical can do about those anyway.

ATI drivers? The open source ATI drivers have progressed wonderfully recently. I never even flirt with the idea of tainting my desktops or laptops with proprietary drivers. The situation is different with nvidia but I am still happy with the machine I have with an old nvidia card I purchased for mining btc.

What problems do people have with the free ATI drivers?

Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

#36
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Not a bad idea. The areas where I have the biggest problems with Ubuntu is hardware support and new updates just breaking my system. It's so bad that I REALLY want to just go to Debian Stable as my primary OS. I just can't handle that much downtime to switch over at home and the office. I'm a developer. I don't give a shit about a fancy desktop. I just want my hardware to work good with the O.S. and for updates not t…

Your reference to Debian stable made me curious. Do you think that has less disruption than only installing Ubuntu LTS releases? I haven't used Debian after switching to Ubuntu pretty early on. These days I stick to LTS on servers but can't resist upgrading to the latest shiny stuff every 6 months. I've had issues with upgrades and assumed that if I had stayed in the LTS path only it would be smoother. By the way Ubu…

Debian stable has far less disruption than Ubuntu LTS in my experience. There are very frequent updates to LTS releases. Often big ones too.

That being said, Debian stable can sometimes feel a little... stale. Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

#38

Not a bad idea. The areas where I have the biggest problems with Ubuntu is hardware support and new updates just breaking my system. It's so bad that I REALLY want to just go to Debian Stable as my primary OS. I just can't handle that much downtime to switch over at home and the office. I'm a developer. I don't give a shit about a fancy desktop. I just want my hardware to work good with the O.S. and for updates not t…

I think Unity is the least worthwhile part of Ubuntu but since it's already here, I'd like them to fund an alternative, not remove funding and keep it as it is. Edit: The page should a "make the desktop less awesome" side of the slider. If Unity is what they mean by "awesome", it should be slid back.

I realize it's not part of the default distribution, but installing xubuntu-desktop is a nearly-painless way to ditch Unity for XFCE. I've been very happy with it.

Re: Canonical asks desktop users to “pay what you think Ubuntu is worth”

#39
post #8

Holy freakin' hell that is an awful headline. This is a DONATION, nothing more. Canonical is not asking people to pay, it is asking people to donate if they are so inclined. The press releases states that Ubuntu is and always will be free. Use Ubuntu and want to give some money for it? Great. Donate. Now there is a way where previously there was none. Use Ubuntu and don't want to give money? Great. Don't donate. Don'…

The headline doesn't seem awful considering the actual screen which speaks for itself. http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/how-mu... Also, it's not a traditional donation in the Mozilla Firefox sense because you cannot deduct it from your taxes because Canonical is a for-profit commercial organization.

It seems that the appropriate comparison would be donating to Debian:

http://www.debian.org/donations

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