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I'd like to, but I think if anything I'd donate to Debian first.
Can you explain the reasoning behind that?
Debian is an actual nonprofit that can accept donations, while Canonical is a for-profit company to which you can only give voluntary payments masquerading as donations?
Not a bad idea. The areas where I have the biggest problems with Ubuntu is hardware support and new updates just breaking my system. It's so bad that I REALLY want to just go to Debian Stable as my primary OS. I just can't handle that much downtime to switch over at home and the office. I'm a developer. I don't give a shit about a fancy desktop. I just want my hardware to work good with the O.S. and for updates not t…
I haven't used Debian after switching to Ubuntu pretty early on. These days I stick to LTS on servers but can't resist upgrading to the latest shiny stuff every 6 months. I've had issues with upgrades and assumed that if I had stayed in the LTS path only it would be smoother.
By the way Ubuntu releases an LTS release every two years and the last 3 Debian stable releases have happened at 2 year intervals, so the two seem comparable.
I'd like to, but I think if anything I'd donate to Debian first.
Can you explain the reasoning behind that?
These people (we) are willing to use Ubuntu, since it is pretty much the same thing, but they (we) will never go out and actively support the Ubuntu project as we believe that Debian is more deserving of our support.
So, the tricky question is - what if we can't afford that? Does that mean that, ethically, I should no longer use the product if I want to honor Canonical's request?
I'm not sure what you mean by "can't afford that." If you think Ubuntu provides you with $X in value but you literally do not have $X to your name, well, I'm not sure how it could be providing $X to you, then. You could be totally broke and feel like Ubuntu has the potential to provide you with $X in value (by helping you get a job, for example). You could just donate when the value is realized, not before. Maybe you…
I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.
Imagine I have disposable income of $0 and I currently use Ubuntu. By your reasoning, Ubuntu is worthless to me. However, let's say that if you offered me $1 to stop using Ubuntu, I would say say "no". We can safely conclude that Ubuntu is worth more than $1 to me, even though I don't have $1 to pay for it.
Ability to pay doesn't always equal value created. If I like take walks in a national park, I obviously derive value from that resource, but I don't pay anything for it and it doesn't allow me to generate any additional income.
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Optional payment != Donation. Given that Canonical is commercial I very much doubt that they are even allowed to take donations.
Canonical is commercial, the Ubuntu Foundation is not: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/UbuntuFoundation . Ubuntu's been accepting donations for quite a while, long before they added this.
Not a bad idea. The areas where I have the biggest problems with Ubuntu is hardware support and new updates just breaking my system. It's so bad that I REALLY want to just go to Debian Stable as my primary OS. I just can't handle that much downtime to switch over at home and the office. I'm a developer. I don't give a shit about a fancy desktop. I just want my hardware to work good with the O.S. and for updates not t…
I don't know what the situation is like now, since I haven't used linux on my laptop for a couple years, but if I were to go back, I would want something like Debian stable, but with an updated browser.
I really like it when motd just randomly became some convoluted set of scripts.
I'd like to, but I think if anything I'd donate to Debian first.
Not a bad idea. The areas where I have the biggest problems with Ubuntu is hardware support and new updates just breaking my system. It's so bad that I REALLY want to just go to Debian Stable as my primary OS. I just can't handle that much downtime to switch over at home and the office. I'm a developer. I don't give a shit about a fancy desktop. I just want my hardware to work good with the O.S. and for updates not t…
I used Debian stable as my primary OS for a couple of years. While I was just fine without the fancy desktop, at the time Firefox was stuck on version 3.0 even though 3.6 was available. I don't know what the situation is like now, since I haven't used linux on my laptop for a couple years, but if I were to go back, I would want something like Debian stable, but with an updated browser.
Holy freakin' hell that is an awful headline. This is a DONATION, nothing more. Canonical is not asking people to pay, it is asking people to donate if they are so inclined. The press releases states that Ubuntu is and always will be free. Use Ubuntu and want to give some money for it? Great. Donate. Now there is a way where previously there was none. Use Ubuntu and don't want to give money? Great. Don't donate. Don'…