What amazes me about Waymo is how expensive the rides are. They're at least 20% more expensive than Uber (the much more expensive Uber of today, not the Uber of 2-4 years ago), sometimes 100-150% more expensive. If they can't be cheaper, then what's the point?
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#62There are also neighborhood self-help groups who try to "stack" the Waymos into alleys so that they can sleep: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/25/us/santa-monica-waymo-bat...
https://archive.is/KvK7D
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#63Very neat. I recently went to the Waymo depot in Bayshore (Toland St) and snapped a couple of pictures of the new Zeekrs for Wikipedia. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Waymo_Zeekr_Vehicle_... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Waymo_Zeekr_Vehicle_...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Line_scan_photo_of_S... (If you're confused by that page, then so was I. It contains the full photo but it's so long that it gets compressed into a line a few pixels high.)
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How are Google allowed to get Zeekr? Are they pre tariff or they have some loophole being corporate?
> some loophole being corporate Presumably they use the loophole called "paying the tariff".
Plus, all the sensor equipment is made in China anyway. There’s almost certainly no way to have it manufactured in the US.
On top of that, fleet sales don’t have to deal with the antiquated dealer network laws in the US.
And of course American market car manufacturers refuse to produce vehicles that are like this one: space efficient and reasonably sized, instead opting for gigantic bean shaped SUVs with sloping rear roofs that rob you of cargo space while taking up maximum curb real estate.
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#66Very impressive video! What you can clearly see: If you scale this over the next years, "manual driving is over" :-D This is just the very very early beginning, like the first seconds after big bang, we haven really started this whole thing: If you put just more ressources here, we will have giant parking houses for just self-driving-cars, like "coming home over night and recharge" And this technology will come on a…
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>If you are today a big insurance like Munich Re, and you see already today that self-driving produces already much less accidents (90% or so I read days ago?), and the tech is really new & "not 100% reliable" and you believe that this tech will be rolled out - one day you will start lobbying politicans that manual driving needs to be forbidden, except some rare cases. Why would insurance companies lobby for that? 90…
Reduction in premiums doesn’t mean reduction in profit.
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#69Waymo's been doing for the past 5 years what Elon's promised to deliver 10 years ago (and is still not delivering)
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
> some loophole being corporate Presumably they use the loophole called "paying the tariff".
Which isn’t even really that prohibitive because Chinese vehicles beat Western pricing by five figures. Plus, all the sensor equipment is made in China anyway. There’s almost certainly no way to have it manufactured in the US. On top of that, fleet sales don’t have to deal with the antiquated dealer network laws in the US. And of course American market car manufacturers refuse to produce vehicles that are like this o…