Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by snvzz » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 10:43 PM UTC

Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig
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Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by superb_dev » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:03 PM UTC

> The compositor will get disabled … if the client runs a fullscreen application and disabled vsync in the application.

This is interesting to me, why would vsync being enabled mean that the desktop compositor needs to stick around for a full screen app?

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by sergiotapia » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:03 PM UTC

This is a really really bad name. There's already a Phoenix that is well known in tech. https://phoenixframework.org/

OP if you're the author I suggest you rename to avoid confusion. Don't name it Rails either haha!

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by kombine » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:04 PM UTC

Are different DPIs for different monitors supported too?

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by snvzz » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:06 PM UTC

Complements XLibre[0], an active fork of the X11 server from Xorg.

XLibre is trying to advance the existing implementation which Xorg abandoned, whereas Phoenix is writing a new, compatible server from scratch.

0. https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by manytimesaway » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:08 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #3

This is a really really bad name. There's already a Phoenix that is well known in tech. https://phoenixframework.org/ OP if you're the author I suggest you rename to avoid confusion. Don't name it Rails either haha!

This is a really really bad comment. I've never heard of the framework you're talking about and I thought you were talking about the Firefox prototype.

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by s08148692 » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:10 PM UTC

First my mind went to Phoenix (elixir framework), then to X (twitter) before it clicked what this was actually about. Some very overloaded names

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by viccis » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:11 PM UTC

manytimesaway wrote: post #6

sergiotapia wrote: post #3

This is a really really bad name. There's already a Phoenix that is well known in tech. https://phoenixframework.org/ OP if you're the author I suggest you rename to avoid confusion. Don't name it Rails either haha!

This is a really really bad comment. I've never heard of the framework you're talking about and I thought you were talking about the Firefox prototype.

Phoenix is a well known web app framework regardless of your ignorance of it.

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by gldrk » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:11 PM UTC

If you are not going to implement X11 drawing ops and XRender (which I, and many others, still use heavily), what's even the point? Any 'modern' program that only does client-side rendering already supports Wayland. AFAIK GTK 3 doesn't even support DRI on X11 unless you somehow trick it into using the abandoned OpenGL Cairo backend, but that's not modern enough apparently.

Re: Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

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Post by hu3 » Wed, Dec 24, 2025, 11:11 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #3

This is a really really bad name. There's already a Phoenix that is well known in tech. https://phoenixframework.org/ OP if you're the author I suggest you rename to avoid confusion. Don't name it Rails either haha!

Your link is about a nice web framework written in Elixir.

But I don't see how a X server implementation should avoid name collision with web frameworks.