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Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by thwest »

wolfgke wrote: post #48
kibwen wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do seem to be looking for those, but as paid employees rather than volunteers.[1] Those roles are probably harder to outsource to the community. [1] https://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/

Can somebody tell me reasons why UI designers or UX specialists are more difficult to outsource? I know that many open source projects have difficulties attracting them, but I really don't know the reasons (any reason designers working in this field gave me also should apply to programmers - thus they also couldn't answer this question).

I imagine that the less concrete requirements on the UX make it more difficult to negotiate design decisions via pull requests. Typically OSS code contributions don't include design changes (e.g moving proven core components from shared state to a message queue for aesthetics), but bug fixes or very concrete feature additions which are easy to reduce to tests.

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by Killswitch »

nathanb wrote: post #52

Would be cool if it went into greater detail. "Oh, you're a C programmer? You can work on NSS". Thanks for letting me know. I'll log that away. How about this: "You're a C programmer? Here's an interesting bug targeted to the NSS component I've pulled from Mozilla's bug database which might catch your fancy" Hm, that's interesting. How would I solve that? Maybe if I...no. Hm. Let me pull down the source code to see w…

Not to mention how he talks down to certain devs because of their language preference. We get it, you don't like it, don't have to be condescending, especially when you're trying to sell an idea that ANYBODY can work for Mozilla because of their wide reliability on things.

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by nathanb »

udp wrote: post #56
nathanb wrote: post #52

Would be cool if it went into greater detail. "Oh, you're a C programmer? You can work on NSS". Thanks for letting me know. I'll log that away. How about this: "You're a C programmer? Here's an interesting bug targeted to the NSS component I've pulled from Mozilla's bug database which might catch your fancy" Hm, that's interesting. How would I solve that? Maybe if I...no. Hm. Let me pull down the source code to see w…

NSS is actually the only suggestion for C programmers (no matter how many times you click you're not interested).

Presumably because NSS is the only part of Mozilla actually written in C...

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by wolfgke »

kibwen wrote: post #54
wolfgke wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can somebody tell me reasons why UI designers or UX specialists are more difficult to outsource? I know that many open source projects have difficulties attracting them, but I really don't know the reasons (any reason designers working in this field gave me also should apply to programmers - thus they also couldn't answer this question).

Are you a UI designer or UX specialist? If so, in what way would you like to use your skills to contribute to open source software?

No, I'm just a simple developer whose design skills suck so much, that I don't even try to interfere with the designer's affairs (that's why I can sustain good relationships to designers, since they hate interference of customers; at least, as long as I don't try to come up with ideas like testability of designs ;-) just kidding).

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by cpeterso »

nathanb wrote: post #52

Would be cool if it went into greater detail. "Oh, you're a C programmer? You can work on NSS". Thanks for letting me know. I'll log that away. How about this: "You're a C programmer? Here's an interesting bug targeted to the NSS component I've pulled from Mozilla's bug database which might catch your fancy" Hm, that's interesting. How would I solve that? Maybe if I...no. Hm. Let me pull down the source code to see w…

"Bugs Ahoy" is a website that lets you filter Bugzilla bugs tagged "[good first bug]" or "[mentor=]" by programming language and feature area:

http://flyinformation.nfshost.com/bugsahoy/?cpp=1

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by addies »

Killswitch wrote: post #62
nathanb wrote: post #52

Would be cool if it went into greater detail. "Oh, you're a C programmer? You can work on NSS". Thanks for letting me know. I'll log that away. How about this: "You're a C programmer? Here's an interesting bug targeted to the NSS component I've pulled from Mozilla's bug database which might catch your fancy" Hm, that's interesting. How would I solve that? Maybe if I...no. Hm. Let me pull down the source code to see w…

Not to mention how he talks down to certain devs because of their language preference. We get it, you don't like it, don't have to be condescending, especially when you're trying to sell an idea that ANYBODY can work for Mozilla because of their wide reliability on things.

I'm pretty sure those are just some tongue-in-cheek jokes, all in good fun

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by padenot »

xhrpost wrote: post #55

While this is a neat idea, it seems to fall to the same problem I've seen elsewhere, little to no transparency as to where a project is going. For example, I was suggested Shumway (JS flash emulator). I'm sent to the github page for it ( https://github.com/mozilla/shumway ). They give a small summary and a little info on getting an installation working. Nothing however I can see on where a new contributor would start…

To be fair, shumway has not as many people as Gecko or other big Mozilla projects to do triage and things for the newcomers, the shumway team being minuscule and the project an ongoing effort.

If you want to contribute to a Mozilla project, but can't figure out how you can help, please come on irc (irc.mozilla.org), usually on #nameoftheproject (here #shumway), or in #introduction if you want something more generic.

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by moystard »

Killswitch wrote: post #62
nathanb wrote: post #52

Would be cool if it went into greater detail. "Oh, you're a C programmer? You can work on NSS". Thanks for letting me know. I'll log that away. How about this: "You're a C programmer? Here's an interesting bug targeted to the NSS component I've pulled from Mozilla's bug database which might catch your fancy" Hm, that's interesting. How would I solve that? Maybe if I...no. Hm. Let me pull down the source code to see w…

Not to mention how he talks down to certain devs because of their language preference. We get it, you don't like it, don't have to be condescending, especially when you're trying to sell an idea that ANYBODY can work for Mozilla because of their wide reliability on things.

Except Rust, all other languages have theirs. I hardly understand how people can feel offended from jokes such as these.

Re: What can I do for Mozilla?

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Post by crystalbeasley »

wolfgke wrote: post #48
kibwen wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do seem to be looking for those, but as paid employees rather than volunteers.[1] Those roles are probably harder to outsource to the community. [1] https://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/

Can somebody tell me reasons why UI designers or UX specialists are more difficult to outsource? I know that many open source projects have difficulties attracting them, but I really don't know the reasons (any reason designers working in this field gave me also should apply to programmers - thus they also couldn't answer this question).

I started writing a response about my experience as a designer at Mozilla and it got really long and I turned it into a blog post called "Code talks and designers don't speak the language." Thanks for inspiring me to come out of blog hibernation. http://skinnywhitegirl.com/blog/code-talks-and-designers-don...
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