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Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

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Post by Numerlor »

cyberax wrote: post #95
vb-8448 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they are completely screwing up the AI integration. After years of JetBrains PyCharm pro I'm seriously considering switch to cursor. Before supermaven being acquired, pycharm+supermaven was feeling like having superpowers ... i really wish they will manage to somehow catch up, otherwise the path is written: crisis, being acquired by some big corp, enshitification.

JetBrains has AI support. It's a bit janky right now, but it is definitely getting better. They have an MCP server, but it doesn't provide easy access to their code metadata model. Things like "jump to definition" are not yet available. This is really annoying, they just need to add a bit more polish and features, and they'll have a perfect counter to Cursor.

The polish is what they seem to have trouble with lately.

I much prefer their ides to say vscode, but their development has been a mess for a while with half-assed implementations and long standing bugs

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

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Post by bikelang »

parpfish wrote: post #41
spullara wrote: post #31

I really can't understand why JetBrains hasn't integrated its refactoring tools into the AI system. Really missed the boat on making their platform transformational for AI coding. Imagine how much smaller the context would be for a tool that renames a function than editing hundreds of files. This LSP support is a good start but without the mutation functions it is still pretty lackluster. Plus LSPs aren't as good as…

Jetbrainz needs to give up on Junie and their in house ai and focus on integrating with the established tools. If they don’t, VS code will consume them.

Is there something with the Claude code plugin for JB IDEs you don’t like? Is there something the VSCode Claude Code plugin does better?

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

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Post by dcreater »

ed_blackburn wrote: post #123

I literally said this three days ago: https://hachyderm.io/@ed_blackburn/115747527216812176 But in all seriousness, LLMs have their strengths but we’re all wasting tokens and burning the planet unnecessarily getting LLMs to work so inefficiently. Use the best tool for the job; make the tools easier to use by LLMs. This mantra is applicable generally. Not just for coding.

I hope in a couple of years the industry would have outgrown this adolescene and we'll all collectively look back at this horribly inefficient and poorly engineered tooling with disdain. We need to as these things are literally causing harm to the planet (energy, water, raw materials, geopolitics)

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

#164

Post by WahyuS002 »

spullara wrote: post #31

I really can't understand why JetBrains hasn't integrated its refactoring tools into the AI system. Really missed the boat on making their platform transformational for AI coding. Imagine how much smaller the context would be for a tool that renames a function than editing hundreds of files. This LSP support is a good start but without the mutation functions it is still pretty lackluster. Plus LSPs aren't as good as…

It really does feel like the Innovator's Dilemma playing out for JetBrains. They have the best semantic understanding of code (PSI) locked away in their proprietary engine, but they seem too attached to the traditional "human-driving-the-IDE" paradigm.

Tools like Claude Code (and Cursor) are treating the editor/CLI as a fluid canvas for the AI, whereas JetBrains treats AI as just a sidebar plugin. If they don't expose their internal refactoring tools to agents soon, the friction of switching to VS Code/CLI becomes negligible compared to the productivity gains of these agents.

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

#165

Post by khimaros »

dvtkrlbs wrote: post #64

What boggles my mind is. I've been using OpenCode [1] which had this future for at least 6 months. I sometimes baffled by the slow progress of closed source software. Also highly recommend OpenCode you can also use it with your Claude subscription or Copilot one. [1]: https://opencode.ai/

preferring open source and provider agnostic tools, i really want to like OpenCode. i used it exclusively for months, but sadly it has major usability issues which switching to Claude Code solved:

- accidental approvals when trying to queue a prompt because of the unexpected popovers - severe performance issues when pending approval (using 100% of all cores) - tool call failures

having used Crush, OpenCode, aider, mistral-vibe, Gemini CLI (and the Qwen fork), and Claude Code, the clear winner is CC. Gemini/Qwen come in second but they do lose input when you decline a requested permission on a tool call.

that said, CC also has its issues, like the flickering problem that happens in some terminals while scrolling executed command output.

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

#166

Post by Razengan »

Anthropic/Clause has the absolute worst UX among all the major AI products.

Just try copy-pasting text, say a prompt from a notes app or a text file.

and they completely ignore all complaints. Why would anyone use this crap as opposed to ChatGPT etc.?

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

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Post by neutronicus »

eterm wrote: post #85
spullara wrote: post #31

I really can't understand why JetBrains hasn't integrated its refactoring tools into the AI system. Really missed the boat on making their platform transformational for AI coding. Imagine how much smaller the context would be for a tool that renames a function than editing hundreds of files. This LSP support is a good start but without the mutation functions it is still pretty lackluster. Plus LSPs aren't as good as…

I completely agree. Likewise I'm amazed Microsoft hasn't done it themselves for Roslyn and Copilot. Roslyn analyzers are so incredibly powerful, and it's being ignored. An explainer for others: Not only can analyzers act as basic linters, but transformations are built right in to them. Every time claude does search-and-replace to add a parameter I want to cry a little, this has been a solved science. Agents + Roslyn…

Same shit, but Microsoft and Visual Studio.

Like, the AI can't jump to definition! What are we fucking doing!?

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

#168

Post by aurbxyajwur »

Razengan wrote: post #166

Anthropic/Clause has the absolute worst UX among all the major AI products. Just try copy-pasting text, say a prompt from a notes app or a text file. and they completely ignore all complaints. Why would anyone use this crap as opposed to ChatGPT etc.?

Hard disagree. They have the best UX in the industry

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

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Post by cog-flex »

eterm wrote: post #85
spullara wrote: post #31

I really can't understand why JetBrains hasn't integrated its refactoring tools into the AI system. Really missed the boat on making their platform transformational for AI coding. Imagine how much smaller the context would be for a tool that renames a function than editing hundreds of files. This LSP support is a good start but without the mutation functions it is still pretty lackluster. Plus LSPs aren't as good as…

I completely agree. Likewise I'm amazed Microsoft hasn't done it themselves for Roslyn and Copilot. Roslyn analyzers are so incredibly powerful, and it's being ignored. An explainer for others: Not only can analyzers act as basic linters, but transformations are built right in to them. Every time claude does search-and-replace to add a parameter I want to cry a little, this has been a solved science. Agents + Roslyn…

I hope your current boss appreciates who they have.

Re: Claude Code gets native LSP support

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Post by pqn »

vb-8448 wrote: post #59
spullara wrote: post #31

I really can't understand why JetBrains hasn't integrated its refactoring tools into the AI system. Really missed the boat on making their platform transformational for AI coding. Imagine how much smaller the context would be for a tool that renames a function than editing hundreds of files. This LSP support is a good start but without the mutation functions it is still pretty lackluster. Plus LSPs aren't as good as…

I think they are completely screwing up the AI integration. After years of JetBrains PyCharm pro I'm seriously considering switch to cursor. Before supermaven being acquired, pycharm+supermaven was feeling like having superpowers ... i really wish they will manage to somehow catch up, otherwise the path is written: crisis, being acquired by some big corp, enshitification.

I'm biased (work at Cognition) but I think it's worth giving the Windsurf JetBrains plugin a try. We're working harder on polish these days, so happy to hear any feedback.
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