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US destroying its reputation as a scientific leader – European science diplomat

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Re: US destroying its reputation as a scientific leader – European science diplomat

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Post by jvanderbot »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5

"In a parting shot before her retirement, the European Commission’s top science diplomat has castigated the US for destroying its reputation as a global scientific leader. ... Speaking at the European Science Diplomacy Conference in Copenhagen, she did not elaborate on exactly how the US was wrecking its reputation. ... The next programme, which starts in 2028, will also be more focused on European defence technology…

From the EU perspective, I can see why it pays to say the US is an unreliable or unnecessary partner. It may or may not be true, but cui bono: EU gets to reindustrialize and invest domestically. Seems like a great idea for EU and US both.

Re: US destroying its reputation as a scientific leader – European science diplomat

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Post by sallveburrpi »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5

"In a parting shot before her retirement, the European Commission’s top science diplomat has castigated the US for destroying its reputation as a global scientific leader. ... Speaking at the European Science Diplomacy Conference in Copenhagen, she did not elaborate on exactly how the US was wrecking its reputation. ... The next programme, which starts in 2028, will also be more focused on European defence technology…

Not entirely baseless though :

> the US government has cut scientific grants to academics working on diversity-related topics, halted biomedical grants to international partners, and demanded universities shut down academic units that “belittle” conservative ideas, or risk losing federal funding.

> These efforts have in some cases been overturned by courts or faced opposition from universities. And huge proposed cuts in federal research funding may be blunted by Congress. But still, the reputational damage has led Europe to attempt a poaching spree of disillusioned US academics.

Re: US destroying its reputation as a scientific leader – European science diplomat

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Post by tsunamifury »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5

"In a parting shot before her retirement, the European Commission’s top science diplomat has castigated the US for destroying its reputation as a global scientific leader. ... Speaking at the European Science Diplomacy Conference in Copenhagen, she did not elaborate on exactly how the US was wrecking its reputation. ... The next programme, which starts in 2028, will also be more focused on European defence technology…

While America is appearing to be the abject fool here, it’s hard to take any of Europe’s criticisms like this seriously when even in the best of times they have constantly castigated us as fools.

They were calling us fools when we were inventing AI in 2015 too.

I think what we are doing today is horribly executed, but likely motivated by a farsightedness Europe can’t believe is there since we are all just dumb fools. (Collapse of globalism as a sustainable system)

Re: US destroying its reputation as a scientific leader – European science diplomat

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Post by estearum »

mlinhares wrote: post #3

Countries shouldn't have outsourced all research and development to the US, hope they all notice this wasn't a good plan and that they all need to get back to it right now.

Countries didn't "outsource" it, the US competed for and dominated this extremely high value-added portion of the global economy.

It's a complete own-goal for us to give up what we fought so hard for.

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