Spotify reportedly investigating Anna's Archive's scraping of their library

Post by bopbopbop7 » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 6:18 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #34

bopbopbop7 wrote: post #30

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The camera did not kill painting. And how does comparing a camera to an LLM even make sense?

Painting (portraits for example) as a profession largely disappeared, while art based on painting evolved (impressionism, cubism, etc) due to the camera. My point is that photography is essentially a simulacra of reality, yet it unexpectedly created its own art form and influenced existing ones. So will the use of LLMs for generation

Post by breppp » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 6:20 PM UTC

_fzslm wrote: post #40

breppp wrote: post #24

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Depends, the camera killed painting and is a positive for art in my opinion It's not obvious that LLM generation won't create more interesting music experiences (for lack of non-marketing speak for self curated music)

Arguably, the camera evolved painting because it expanded the idea of what it could be – that it could be more than the illustration of/"illusion" of reality. I think and have always thought the exact same thing will happen with generative AI.

Post by breppp » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 6:23 PM UTC

bopbopbop7 wrote: post #41

breppp wrote: post #34

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Painting (portraits for example) as a profession largely disappeared, while art based on painting evolved (impressionism, cubism, etc) due to the camera. My point is that photography is essentially a simulacra of reality, yet it unexpectedly created its own art form and influenced existing ones. So will the use of LLMs for generation

LLMs will not do what the camera did. LLMs have no anchor to reality like the camera, they simply optimize for the average. A camera is a whole new medium, an LLM is a statistical construction. Sorry to burst your AI bubble. LLMs will not be the new camera, they won't be a new programming language, and they won't be the new compiler.

Post by lm28469 » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 6:27 PM UTC

madduci wrote: post #26

int32_64 wrote: post #13

Convenience won. How many people are actually going to download a torrent client, navigate through some massive torrent file collection to check the files of the artists they want to download so they can upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable like it's 2004 again, just so they can avoid paying Spotify?

And specifically, not everybody owns a NAS with 300 TB capacity. At 30TB drive for almost 1000€, we are talking about 10-15000€. As mentioned in other stories, this is really welcomed by other big corps or LLM related companies

Post by Towaway69 » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 6:30 PM UTC

_fzslm wrote: post #40

breppp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends, the camera killed painting and is a positive for art in my opinion It's not obvious that LLM generation won't create more interesting music experiences (for lack of non-marketing speak for self curated music)

Arguably, the camera evolved painting because it expanded the idea of what it could be – that it could be more than the illustration of/"illusion" of reality. I think and have always thought the exact same thing will happen with generative AI.