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Re: I'm just having fun

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Post by constantcrying »

The world was a much better place when engineering was done by men in dress shirts, who saw technical excellence as their professional obligation, but then returned home to their families and could leave their professional life behind.

People like this make me hate everything to do with software. Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expression. I do not want to interact with these people at all. If you derive your identity from being a programmer you are actually harmful and I hope that I will never have the misfortune of having to work with you.

And yes, if you do not capitalize properly, then I do not see you as fully human. And if you keep swearing you sound like a twelve year old.

Re: I'm just having fun

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Post by brazukadev »

constantcrying wrote: post #161

The world was a much better place when engineering was done by men in dress shirts, who saw technical excellence as their professional obligation, but then returned home to their families and could leave their professional life behind. People like this make me hate everything to do with software. Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expre…

> People like this make me hate everything to do with software

Well, the people that code for fun (and profit) think you, the men in suits, ruined everything so at least the feeling is reciprocal.

Re: I'm just having fun

#163

Post by hofrogs »

GaryBluto wrote: post #160
hofrogs wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any references to "sexual fetishes" in the article.

That's impressive considering the article mentions "feminizing" things in big text the moment you load the page.

"feminizing" doesn't refer to a sexual fetish, it just means making something more feminine. Do you assume that something being feminine is automatically sexualized and fetishistic?

Re: I'm just having fun

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Post by constantcrying »

brazukadev wrote: post #162
constantcrying wrote: post #161

The world was a much better place when engineering was done by men in dress shirts, who saw technical excellence as their professional obligation, but then returned home to their families and could leave their professional life behind. People like this make me hate everything to do with software. Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expre…

> People like this make me hate everything to do with software Well, the people that code for fun (and profit) think you, the men in suits, ruined everything so at least the feeling is reciprocal.

Well, since those men in shirts built the whole thing up, I am not disappointed that they are hated for it by the right people.

>suits

shirts was what I said. Not suits.

Re: I'm just having fun

#165

Post by jynelson »

constantcrying wrote: post #161

The world was a much better place when engineering was done by men in dress shirts, who saw technical excellence as their professional obligation, but then returned home to their families and could leave their professional life behind. People like this make me hate everything to do with software. Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expre…

> Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expression

it makes me sad that you see these things as somehow in conflict with each other :(

Re: I'm just having fun

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Post by GaryBluto »

hofrogs wrote: post #163
GaryBluto wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's impressive considering the article mentions "feminizing" things in big text the moment you load the page.

"feminizing" doesn't refer to a sexual fetish, it just means making something more feminine. Do you assume that something being feminine is automatically sexualized and fetishistic?

I knew you were going to say this.

"Feminizing" doesn't inherently refer to a sexual fetish but context matters. I invite you to examine the article more in depth, look at the chatroom conversations and then come to your own conclusion.

Re: I'm just having fun

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Post by constantcrying »

jynelson wrote: post #165
constantcrying wrote: post #161

The world was a much better place when engineering was done by men in dress shirts, who saw technical excellence as their professional obligation, but then returned home to their families and could leave their professional life behind. People like this make me hate everything to do with software. Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expre…

> Software should be an engineering field, which exists to help humans, not as some personal art project for your self expression it makes me sad that you see these things as somehow in conflict with each other :(

It fills me with joy to know that those are irreconcilable. It lifts the burden of having to reconcile these things and I know that my self expression can be directed elsewhere.

Whatever beauty exists in engineering comes from the purity of it. A fighter plane or a microchip looks beautiful, not because it was designed to be so, but because of the purity of the functionality, the harshness of the requirements. If you turn a fighter plane into an art project, then it will be inherently ridiculous. It will make a mockery of its own purpose, looking at it will be like looking at a cripple.

Re: I'm just having fun

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Post by defrost »

Animats wrote: post #110
satvikpendem wrote: post #81

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Gen Z linguistic phenomenon. It's to signify a more authentic or calmer, more personable style rather than an overly literary one. It's kind of nice actually, like talking to a friend about their thoughts. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/feb/18/death-of-cap...

It goes back to the 1960s TV show, "The Prisoner".[1] In the village, all signage and maps are lower case only, and in a unique font. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osNmf_zmSyE

bauhaus in 1925 has been linked in a peer comment.

i've got a 1926 print book is 5 by e e cummings who famously often used lowercase in his prose and poems ... going back earlier than the collection i have.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_5

* my sweet old etcetera - https://web.archive.org/web/19991008163420/http://www.geocit...

still, as you're a fan of that 1960's show ... here's a few samples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dm_iq5OicM (1985)

Re: I'm just having fun

#169

Post by monerozcash »

thawawaycold wrote: post #146
SilverSlash wrote: post #120

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I think Sam Altman popularized it with his tweets during the height of OpenAI, GPT popularity ~2023. Or maybe it was already trending by then but at least for me he was the first among prominent people to be doing it.

imho it was definitely popular before and altman adopted it to fit in with the online crowd

sama writing like that is not a new thing:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1000015

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=59004

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15 (from literally the first HN thread ever)

Also, it's perhaps somewhat hilarious to suggest that someone who has been chronically online for decades has to do anything to "fit in"

He writes as people who grew up on IRC and similar platforms tend to.

Re: I'm just having fun

#170

Post by thornewolf »

RagnarD wrote: post #119

When did this writing with no capitalization start to become a thing? I'm seeing it too often now. It's pretentious crap and quickly leads to me thinking that the writer doesn't want to be taken seriously, so why read it?

I started typing in no caps in most conversation around 2013-2016, when I first started playing League of Legends and using Discord. Other people from this same age bracket as me have similar experiences (if they were "chronically" online) and similar behavior patterns. It's not pretentious imo.
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