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Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

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Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#21
There is nothing worse, than a rotten mail delivery system:

https://expatcircle.com/cms/underrated-quality-of-life-indic...

Many USPS outlets seem to be run down. But in my experience, mail delivery is pretty solid. And there is indeed a country without postal mail service. Panama!

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#22
post #10

So, all they did was privatize their postal service. There will still have a postal service, but run by a private company. I doubt this will end well, but Denmark is a small country so maybe it will work. After a year it would be nice to see stats and compare delivery time, lost mail, cost between Dao and the old service,

It was already a corporate entity running it, just one owned by both Swedish and Denmark governments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostNord?wprov=sfti1#

It is still the 2nd largest company in Sweden. They just gave up on Denmarks mail contract after the vast majority of people stopped sending mail and now another company is taking over the much smaller operation.

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a monopoly no less.

Natural monopolies with no guard rails always end poorly

Is letter/parcel delivery a natural monopoly? I think of systems with hard infrastructure that use the public way like roads, rail, and pipes.

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#26
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: > Danes will still be able to send letters, using the delivery company Dao, which already delivers letters in Denmark but will expand its services from 1 January from about 30m letters in 2025 to 80m next year. But customers will instead have to go to a Dao shop to post their letters – or pay extra to have it collected from home – and pay for postage either online or via an app.

In other words they've just privatised the mail service.

But: You don't seem to aöbe able to pay the new provider in cash. You need to pay online or using an app. (I have no insights, just from reading TFA.)

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#27

It's been decades since I wrote a letter and mailed it.

Writing some xmas cards right now and going to mail them in a bit. It's fun. You should try it out.

Fun to go shopping at craft fairs and give some money to indie artists for well made art. Send in the mail with a little note and stay in touch with old pals.

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a monopoly no less.

Natural monopolies with no guard rails always end poorly

Are duopolies like iOS & Android much better? I used to trust the mail (in various European countries or the US for example). I don't have a good feeling about either Apple or Google. Especially not as a European, knowing that according to US law I have no rights.

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#29
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Natural monopolies with no guard rails always end poorly

Is letter/parcel delivery a natural monopoly? I think of systems with hard infrastructure that use the public way like roads, rail, and pipes.

I think the question is whether a competitor can become established. Can you run a mail delivery service if you only have local coverage? I don’t know. In the past, maybe you could use the national postal service to fill in the gaps as you scale up a delivery network, but I can’t see the established monopoly giving bulk discounts to a potential competitor. Trucks, vans, sorting facilities and workforces are very expensive to set up, and once they’re set up you can basically optimize them month by month etc. A new competitor has to speculatively spend an awful lot of money before they can deploy anything in any optimal way.

Re: Danish postal service to stop delivering letters

#30
Slightly related: In Finland all official mail from authorities will become electronic by default starting Jan 1st, 2026. There is the possibility to opt out. I am not convinced this is a wise direction. When Putin cuts a couple of sea cables again we are not able to access official communications. Yes, even elections are stored offshore.
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