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Re: Coarse is better

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I see a cloud in the shape of my childhood dog and start to cry, is the cloud art?

Yes. The Earth and its formations are art. I disagree that art requires consciousness and intent, but those admittedly do improve its value [to me]. (For reference, I value AI content/art poorly and avoid it)

Everything is art, fantastic. I see nothing wrong with this definition.

Re: Coarse is better

#22

The author has succeeded only in arguing one meaningless image factory produces images they find more aesthetically pleasing than another meaningless image factory. The framing implies they understand little of art at all; beyond gurgling and clapping like a child at the colors and shapes they find most stimulating.

Found the zealot. Is true art a hermetic endeavour which must be gate-kept to seal out the lesser folk? If so, then why lambast the lesser folk over their ignorance of the secret knowledge?

People are aren’t entitled to get entry into every space they want to with no effort!

Re: Coarse is better

#23
post #13

The author is using special prompts exploiting flaws of the old models, and doesn't like that new models interpret the hacks literally instead. The new models have prompt adherence precise enough to distinguish what "British Museum" or "auction at Christie's" is from the art itself, instead of blending a bag of words together into a single vector and implicitly copying all of the features of all works containing "mus…

The prompts bothered me a lot, too. I don't do a lot of work with AI, but

> A painting sold at Sotheby's

and

> A painting in the style of something that would be sold at Sotheby's

convey very different meaning (to me).

Re: Coarse is better

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The author has succeeded only in arguing one meaningless image factory produces images they find more aesthetically pleasing than another meaningless image factory. The framing implies they understand little of art at all; beyond gurgling and clapping like a child at the colors and shapes they find most stimulating.

Found the zealot. Is true art a hermetic endeavour which must be gate-kept to seal out the lesser folk? If so, then why lambast the lesser folk over their ignorance of the secret knowledge?

> Is true art a hermetic endeavour which must be gate-kept to seal out the lesser folk?

Kind of. If everyone on the planet can paint the Sistine Chapel’s ceiling, then it’s not anything special anymore is it? Especially if it reduces the process to asking the world’s most prolific counterfeit machine to do it for you.

Re: Coarse is better

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I define art as something that evokes an emotion or feeling. I’ve seen people wax poetic about the ”meaning” of an imagine only to find out that the image was created synthetically. Were those “feelings” not authentic?

Is a car crash art?

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Re: Coarse is better

#27

The author has succeeded only in arguing one meaningless image factory produces images they find more aesthetically pleasing than another meaningless image factory. The framing implies they understand little of art at all; beyond gurgling and clapping like a child at the colors and shapes they find most stimulating.

It seems we have found the One True Artist on this thread, the gatekeeper and judge for all that is worthy. Humble obedience in thy presence.

Re: Coarse is better

#28
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The Earth and its formations are art. I disagree that art requires consciousness and intent, but those admittedly do improve its value [to me]. (For reference, I value AI content/art poorly and avoid it)

Everything is art, fantastic. I see nothing wrong with this definition.

We have at least established that very boring pieces, such as Andy Warhol's Empire, Kazimir Malevich's White on White, and John Cage's As Slow As Possible, are not art.

Re: Coarse is better

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I define art as something that evokes an emotion or feeling. I’ve seen people wax poetic about the ”meaning” of an imagine only to find out that the image was created synthetically. Were those “feelings” not authentic?

Is a car crash art?

A drawing/painting of a car crash certainly can be

https://www.etsy.com/listing/4329570102/crash-impact-car-can...

As can a photo of one (sorry, I don't have a good example of that).

And, both a camera and AI are an example of "using a tool to create an image of something". Both involve a creator to determine what picture is created; but the tool is central/crucial to the creation.

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