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What Pandora Pays Top Artists

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Re: What Pandora Pays Top Artists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on another stat in the article, only 800 artists earn than $50k per year. That means that while that artist is only ranked 17,000 in sales on Amazon, they happen to be in the top ~500 on Pandora.

That's a very interesting phenomenon. I wonder what the explanation is for it.

Discovery, I'd imagine. Amazon has a "you might like this" but most of the time clicking those links is not actively what you are doing on Amazon, whereas it is Pandora's whole model.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a very interesting phenomenon. I wonder what the explanation is for it.

Pandora is a music discovery tool that is not based on popularity. That is, if you tell Pandora you like a certain type of music, Pandora is about as likely to play similar obscure music as it is to play similar popular music. Other similar services such as Spotify or Last.fm base their music suggestions on the person song graph rather than on the attributes of the music, so they will primarily suggest very popular m…

Right, I get what the differences in the models are between Pandora and other services. I'm referring to how the artists and/or the music itself differs that causes them to fit into this strange category.

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This is probably going to end up being a controversial opinion, but I just don't think music is worth that much anymore (fiscally speaking). Sure, there was a time when being popular meant signing a contract-- it was the only way to distribute your music on a large scale. Radio and physical copies were the only way to hear music, period. But these days with the internet and the right software practically anyone can create and distribute high quality professional sounding music. It's just not that difficult anymore, and I don't think it justifies such a steep price tag. Could there be such thing as a "music bubble"?

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An artist with a sales rank of 17,000 on Amazon is making $138,567 on Pandora! Wow! I wonder how much Pandora makes (or loses) on that artist.

They've lost $92m since 2000.

I'm also wondering if those unknown artists arent possibly algorithm glitches or they just luckily match some sonic parameter so they keep coming up in the playlist. I'm so cynical :)

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/13/pandora-the-money-los...

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Pandora: Is there a reason the image on this blog post is so large? This one image, resized in the browser to 300x200, is consuming 2+ MB.

Namely, this one:

    
I've been noticing the resurgence of browser-based resizing of large images on a few different business blogs/formats, recently. In this case (and some others), the resize is to much less than 1/4 the original, so I'm thinking it's not a "Retina" thing.

Maybe it's just convenience for the company/blogger, not bothering to resize. But then, every access is a 2+ MB hit -- which is how I noticed it -- both for you, and for the viewer, which may particularly impact mobile viewers and others on limited bandwidth connections.

Re: What Pandora Pays Top Artists

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I wonder what % of each artist's total income these Pandora numbers represent. Is Pandora (or any other streaming service) a sustaining financial source for many of these artists when compared to music sales, touring, licencing, etc. or is it just a drop in the bucket?

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This is probably going to end up being a controversial opinion, but I just don't think music is worth that much anymore (fiscally speaking). Sure, there was a time when being popular meant signing a contract-- it was the only way to distribute your music on a large scale. Radio and physical copies were the only way to hear music, period. But these days with the internet and the right software practically anyone can c…

Give me all of the top music software in the world and I won't be able to create anything worth listening to. Your statement is kind of like saying since word processing software and electronic distribution are widely available, books really aren't worth the price tag. It's the creativity and hard work that goes into books and music that makes it worth the price--not the cost of the distribution medium.

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post #13

This is probably going to end up being a controversial opinion, but I just don't think music is worth that much anymore (fiscally speaking). Sure, there was a time when being popular meant signing a contract-- it was the only way to distribute your music on a large scale. Radio and physical copies were the only way to hear music, period. But these days with the internet and the right software practically anyone can c…

Give me all of the top music software in the world and I won't be able to create anything worth listening to. Your statement is kind of like saying since word processing software and electronic distribution are widely available, books really aren't worth the price tag. It's the creativity and hard work that goes into books and music that makes it worth the price--not the cost of the distribution medium.

There's no empirical way to measure the amount of effort or creativity that goes into something. It just seems to me like 20 dollars for a movie is more justifiable than 15 on an album, based on the _apparent_ amount of work that went towards their creation (not to mention the actual cost). In the end, I could probably make an album myself, but I couldn't create an entire movie. Why are they priced so similarly?
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