Airbus is putting all its design on internet? wow...
Managing product data on the cloud does not mean public internet access, unless someone messes something up big time.
Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud
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#12Good, and them get ride of Palantir as a "data manager". It's a step in financing EU sovereign cloud providers.
> Good, and them get ride of Palantir as a "data manager".
And how do we fight terrorists, CSAM and political opponents without Palantir ?
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#13Airbus is putting all its design on internet? wow...
> Airbus is putting all its design on internet? wow...
Not only Airbus. You see, cloud is secure, information is encrypted and only you have access to your data.
Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud
#14Good, and them get ride of Palantir as a "data manager". It's a step in financing EU sovereign cloud providers.
> Good, and them get ride of Palantir as a "data manager". And how do we fight terrorists, CSAM and political opponents without Palantir ?
I don't think Airbus is fighting terrorists, child abuse or political opponents.
So what is your point ?
Airbus is fighting industrial espionage.
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#15Good, and them get ride of Palantir as a "data manager". It's a step in financing EU sovereign cloud providers.
> Good, and them get ride of Palantir as a "data manager". And how do we fight terrorists, CSAM and political opponents without Palantir ?
Seems extremely dangerous to be doing those kinds of things with software from someone politically hostile. Perhaps the EU should be weaning itself off that too?
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#16Some people in the US deride it's close allies as "freeloaders" because they choose to use and buy US tech, reinforcing the US's position as a global powerhouse. (Meanwhile US tech is built on the shoulders of their allies.) Now we see these same allies are starting to look inward and invest in technology they own completely because the US is acting decisively not like an ally. Something unthinkable since WW2. I don'…
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Almost all computer equipment is from China.
Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud
#17Some people in the US deride it's close allies as "freeloaders" because they choose to use and buy US tech, reinforcing the US's position as a global powerhouse. (Meanwhile US tech is built on the shoulders of their allies.) Now we see these same allies are starting to look inward and invest in technology they own completely because the US is acting decisively not like an ally. Something unthinkable since WW2. I don'…
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> Almost all computer equipment companies are from US.
Made in a few Asian countries. I think it's kind of funny reading the contents of your post and how it ignores Asia, that's actually behind most of it. How much of a Dell PC is US-American?
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#18Having worked with all major European clouds: Good luck, have fun opening a lot of support cases for things that should work ootb.
Did you ever do it while waiving a $50m cheque though?
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#19Some people in the US deride it's close allies as "freeloaders" because they choose to use and buy US tech, reinforcing the US's position as a global powerhouse. (Meanwhile US tech is built on the shoulders of their allies.) Now we see these same allies are starting to look inward and invest in technology they own completely because the US is acting decisively not like an ally. Something unthinkable since WW2. I don'…
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> More on the laziness and stupidity of their allies.
s/laziness and stupidity/corruption/g
See, for instance, what happened to Gemalto.
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#20Much of what people call cloud is a commodity at this point. If you need vms, object storage, load balancers, vpcs, etc., which is what most people would need, that works in a lot of solutions. And you can usually also find managed databases, redis, and a few other bits and bobs. If you like Kubernetes (I personally don't), the whole point of that is that it kind of works everywhere.
People over pay for AWS mostly because of brand recognition. And it's not even small amounts. You get a lot more CPU/memory/bandwidth with some of the competitors. AWS makes money by squeezing their customers hard on that. Competitors do the obvious thing of being a bit more generous. Companies could save a ton just switching to competing solutions. Try it. It's not that hard. Some solutions are obviously not as complete.
This not about US vs. EU but about sovereignty. If you are married to AWS, that's a weakness in itself. Ask yourself how hard it would be to move to Google cloud. Or Azure. Or whatever. If that's very hard, you might have a problem when Amazon jacks up the prices or discontinues a product.
We use a mix of Google Cloud and Telekom Cloud for some of our more picky customers in Germany. Telekom Cloud is not very glamorous. But it's essentially openstack. Which is an open source thing backed by IBM and others. I wouldn't necessary recommend Telekom Cloud (it has a few weaknesses in support and documentation). But it does the job. And unlike AWS, I can get people on the phone and they are happy to talk to me.