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Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by nathan_f77 »

nivloc wrote: post #131
kkowalczyk wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If free private repos is the only thing that BitBucket offers over GitHub, then they'll not be in business for long. You cost them money.

It's a different way to price products - they charge per user. So, if your little startup starts growing, they bring in a bit of cash and have opportunities to up-sell with the other products in their line.

If my startup grew past 5 team members, I would personally just move my private repos to GitHub and start paying them. Bitbucket provides a great free service, but I'd probably never pay for it.

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Post by sillysaurus »

grandalf wrote: post #142
notatoad wrote: post #27

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Bitbucket had a pretty easy time of winning my business: free private repositories for small teams is a great way to draw people in.

With the $100M investment I now think it's probably a bad business decision for github not to get a bit more aggressive on pricing for those edge cases where bitbucket clearly wins.

it's probably a bad business decision for github not to get a bit more aggressive on pricing for [free private repositories]...

Yes. If Github offered just one free private repo, then I would move to them in a heartbeat.

Github is still Github, after all. ("Second resume" etc.) Unfortunately current circumstances prevent me from open-sourcing a certain small segment of my codebase, and... well... Bitbucket is free, and I'm living on Ramen while trying not to worry about my dwindling savings account. So it's a pretty clear-cut choice for me.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by fakeer »

Choosing Bitbucket wasn't tough. I needed a private repo for the little sth (hobbyist) I was doing. Bitbucket gave it for free and there wasn't anything I missed from Github.

Oh, I forgot - I had started that in Mercurial, (/beginner/experiment/learning), though switched to Git later, and that was another huge reason.

I still have open repos on GitHub. I will either keep them mirrored at Bitbucket or might move altogether. Brining balance to the force is good :-)

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by stickfigure »

mitjak wrote: post #110
Osiris wrote: post #80

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I've tried at least a dozen Git GUIs for both PC and Mac and SourceTree is by far my favorite.

Can you elaborate on why? I've found it to be far from intuitive and basically a direct mapping of CLI commands straight into UI elements. A user unfamiliar with command line git arguments would have a difficult time with SourceTree, I would imagine (most of my coworkers have).

A user unfamiliar with command line git arguments would have a difficult time with SourceTree

Let's be honest about git: A user unfamiliar with the CLI commands will have a difficult time, period. I hesitate to predict that it's impossible to create a good UX, but git is a very complicated system with an abstraction that leaks all the way down to database records. Breathe on it wrong and the repository will wedge into a state that sends longime veterans off to stackoverflow.

Yes, git is worth it... but so far every clever GUI has basically been a convenience tool for power users, not a better abstraction that can sidestep the learning curve. It's hard to see how this is going to change without some sort of fundamental change in git.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by taligent »

LordIllidan wrote: post #103
lee wrote: post #96

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>Github is just greedy. No, Github is a business. BitBucket is offering free private accounts as a loss leader, not out of the kindness of their hearts. This is their strategy for competing with GitHub. A $7/month subscription for private github repos is well worth it.

7$ a month for 5 private repos is not worth it all. I acknowledge that Github is a business but I am not about to pay a lot of money for hosting all my repositories, when I can do the same on Bitbucket for free. And when the team grows enough that I'd have to pay Bitbucket, I'll do so willingly.

Are you mad ? $7 a month is nothing for something that you are going to use countless times whilst developing your product.

And no offense but Bitbucket is still a clunky mess that lacks the most critical feature: integration with almost every open source project.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by shuzchen »

I'm loving all the various changes, but one thing I miss is the line in the footer that used to proudly proclaim the version/build of the various pieces of software (e.g., Django, piston, some oauth thing) that bitbucket runs on. Don't see it as a comment in the source either - was that moved somewhere else?

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by icelancer »

Just canceled my GitHub private subscription. I only recently found out a few weeks ago that Bitbucket offers git access; the last time I used them, it was Hg-only. Really happy to be using Atlassian products again, and I love the new redesign. Awesome stuff!

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by tetomb »

thomasvendetta wrote: post #12

To the bitbucket team: Please keep on doing what you are doing. Your service and this new redesign is awesome, and my team and myself wouldn't be where we are without you. We're a small team of young developers working on a startup for the past few months. We haven't launched yet so we're obviously not profitable, but the fact that you've enabled us to make it as far as we have also ensures that when we are in a posi…

+1. I really like bitbucket, especially the free private repositories. I will definitely look to buy products/services from you when the time comes.

Hope you get hold of the .com domain name soon.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by icelancer »

simias wrote: post #23
eblume wrote: post #5

I'm having trouble thinking of reasons why bitbucket is used so much less than github - or at least why it seems that way. It's looking pretty damn good to me right now!

I think one of the reasons for github's success is that it put a lot of emphasis on the "social" part of the website. At some point using github was "cool" and I think there's been a massive network effect. It's sourceforge meets facebook. I sometimes wonder if github's not headed to become the new reddit. At least if you look at some of the comment threads on the site it looks that way [1]. Bitbucket feels more like…

>I sometimes wonder if github's not headed to become the new reddit. At least if you look at some of the comment threads on the site it looks that way [1].

You mean the new old reddit, I presume? Where reddit was a tech-dominant site rather than a news aggregator / spam site?

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by suresk »

sergiotapia wrote: post #89

I wrote a blog post on BitBucket workflow (obviously now it's outdated) and the BitBucket team sent me a free tshirt! http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/blog/1267/entry-3659-visua... I love their website and how you can create free private repos. Good business practice: Unlimited private projects, limited contributers on private projects. Win-win Github is just greedy.

I think it is really unfair to call Github greedy - they provide a valuable service and charge, in my opinion, a very reasonable price for it.

I'm actually considering moving to bitbucket - I have a lot of small private repos, and free vs $22/month makes a lot of sense. It's not that $22 is a "lot" of money - when you just have a bunch of small stuff on the side and don't make a ton of money off it, $22 here and $10 there starts to add up.

But I don't think Github is greedy - I'm just not their target market, and that's fine.

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