Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by facorreia » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 6:49 PM UTC

bitcartel wrote: post #129

kybernetikos wrote: post #93

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Do you think it's more or less likely to get hacked than private repositories on github (which are already trusted by many companies)? Before you answer, consider http://www.extremetech.com/computing/120981-github-hacked-mi...

The crown jewels should always be kept under lock and key! A couple of years ago I was at one of the Github drink meetups. I asked if they were working on encrypted private repos (this was just before or around the time Github Firewall was introduced). A Github employee told me no… before adding that in his opinion source code was not valuable. I asked him to clarify and he said imagine if Twitter had their source co…

Did you ask him for Github's source code?

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by grandalf » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 6:52 PM UTC

notatoad wrote: post #27

bryanh wrote: post #8

For a while I was a bit worried that GitHub had just ran away with the prize and no one else was bothering. It is pretty obvious that Google isn't interested in improving Google Code and that Sourceforge hasn't aged a day (that's not really fair, but it feels like it). I think there is still a chance for BitBucket to make a splash, but I think its going to be hard to win anymore. That's fine, 2nd place makes a lot of…

Bitbucket had a pretty easy time of winning my business: free private repositories for small teams is a great way to draw people in.

With the $100M investment I now think it's probably a bad business decision for github not to get a bit more aggressive on pricing for those edge cases where bitbucket clearly wins.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by ConstantineXVI » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 6:53 PM UTC

bitcartel wrote: post #129

kybernetikos wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's more or less likely to get hacked than private repositories on github (which are already trusted by many companies)? Before you answer, consider http://www.extremetech.com/computing/120981-github-hacked-mi...

The crown jewels should always be kept under lock and key! A couple of years ago I was at one of the Github drink meetups. I asked if they were working on encrypted private repos (this was just before or around the time Github Firewall was introduced). A Github employee told me no… before adding that in his opinion source code was not valuable. I asked him to clarify and he said imagine if Twitter had their source co…

Hosted repos can only be so secure. If you need absolute trust, host them on your own machines (for which GitHub and Atlassian will happily sell you tools to make doing so easier).

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by tayl0r » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:00 PM UTC

Osiris wrote: post #80

bitcartel wrote: post #65

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I like Bitbucket because they support both Mercurial and Git. They also acquired SourceTree (probably the best version control app on the Mac), employed the main developer and made the app free.

I've tried at least a dozen Git GUIs for both PC and Mac and SourceTree is by far my favorite.

I hate how slow it is. After I get to the commit screen it thrashes my CPU and takes ages before my typing shows up.

It's still the best on OSX though.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by senko » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:03 PM UTC

kenperkins wrote: post #76

It was very well said by gwf: This is a race to the bottom in terms of sustainable pricing. I love the free plan but who knows how it'll play long term.

It's not a race to the bottom, bitbucket's not free, they just have a different pricing scheme.

I'm a happy paying customer with 10 users and dozens of repositories. We're an agency, work on a lot of different projects, and having price be O(people) instead of O(projects) makes lot more sense for us.

As amazing as it may sound on HN, GitHub isn't best for everyone. Therefore, there are ways to compete with them that aren't price-based.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by jherdman » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:04 PM UTC

This is kind of apropos, but why do so many web apps use blue as their primary colour?

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by citricsquid » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:08 PM UTC

ZoFreX wrote: post #119

zaroth wrote: post #77

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So off topic, but... Has anyone ever tried to implement a 'crowd-correct' feature where a reader could do something like correct "then->than", and if enough users made the same correction (a couple high-rep users, or more low-rep users) it would stick. I supposed the biggest challenge would be user abuse -- changing even just one word can completely change the meaning of a comment, and yet the comment would still be…

The solution knocking around my head for this was a "sub-channel" for off-topic corrections to posts, so you can suggest a spelling or grammar alteration without a) cluttering the discussion or b) looking like a for calling them out.

    The solution knocking around my head for this 
    was a "sub-channel" for off-topic corrections 
    to posts

That seems like a great idea

    b) looking like a  for calling them out.

judging by the downvotes I guess people think I was trying to be a dick... then vs. than is a very common English error, I figured he'd rather know than continue to be wrong. I would have emailed if he had an email in his profile, but nope. oh well.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by LordIllidan » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:11 PM UTC

jd wrote: post #116

LordIllidan wrote: post #103

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7$ a month for 5 private repos is not worth it all. I acknowledge that Github is a business but I am not about to pay a lot of money for hosting all my repositories, when I can do the same on Bitbucket for free. And when the team grows enough that I'd have to pay Bitbucket, I'll do so willingly.

If you consider $7 (or $12) a month a lot of money for software then you're probably not in the target audience for any (SaaS) software product. A lot of people are willing to pay some money for a SaaS product even when there are free alternatives. I can't think of any piece of software I use regularly that doesn't cross the "worth at least $7 bucks" boundary.

But it's not just $7. We are a small consulting company, with a lot of git repositories. Our total costs would be more in the range of $50 a month.

That's what I am getting at. $7 a month is not all that expensive, you're right - but I am only getting 5 private repositories for that $7 a month.

It just doesn't make sense to use github for private work when you have a lot of repositories.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by LordIllidan » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:14 PM UTC

nbaksalyar wrote: post #122

LordIllidan wrote: post #103

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7$ a month for 5 private repos is not worth it all. I acknowledge that Github is a business but I am not about to pay a lot of money for hosting all my repositories, when I can do the same on Bitbucket for free. And when the team grows enough that I'd have to pay Bitbucket, I'll do so willingly.

How much repositories do you have? I think Github's plans are comparable to Bitbucket - it's just the starting tier is a bit more pricey - and, honestly, $7 or $12/mo doesn't make that much difference.

Over 20, and rapidly increasing - we create a repo for each new project. (consultancy)

Sure these projects are not too big, and the team isn't too big either, but if hosted with Github, we'd be looking at soaring costs per month, or join repos together.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by nathan_f77 » Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 7:17 PM UTC

nivloc wrote: post #131

kkowalczyk wrote: post #100

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If free private repos is the only thing that BitBucket offers over GitHub, then they'll not be in business for long. You cost them money.

It's a different way to price products - they charge per user. So, if your little startup starts growing, they bring in a bit of cash and have opportunities to up-sell with the other products in their line.

If my startup grew past 5 team members, I would personally just move my private repos to GitHub and start paying them. Bitbucket provides a great free service, but I'd probably never pay for it.