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Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Another shooting with random or unclear motives, which conveniently fits an anti-immigrant narrative, also conveniently tied up with a bow... Don't get too caught up in the specifics of the spectacle, and take a long view of really weird coincidence.

Is there really much of an anti-immigrant narrative here?

The killer was an immigrant (from Portugal).

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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I keep seeing this sort of sentiment everywhere and I'm trying to understand it. The same thing happened after Charlie Kirk was killed and the arrest there hinged on a confession by the killer to his dad. A lot of commentary then that the police/FBI got lucky. Ditto Mangione. They got lucky he was found in a random McDonalds. What exactly is the expectation here? Is there some sort of wide-spread belief that the worl…

In my country if the police is really serious, and I mean national crisis level of serious, they can go full China and track everyone. They have the means. Like presumably the US has doorbell camera databases and every car on the highway is electronically flagged?

Flock is around but it’s not as prevalent as some would want you to believe. At least not yet.

Ring cameras and other cameras still require warrant. Same for the data that Flock collects

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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all of that and they basically just got lucky. the guy walked to brown from his car parked nearby and shot up some kids, waited days, went to a guy's house in Massachusetts, killed him and never even got caught - he committed suicide and was only found days after his second killing if anything this whole saga makes me happy smart people aren't killers more often because this guy basically got away...

Being smart doesn't guarantee you'll get away with murder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb

Sometimes criminology students kill people, apparently as research: Bryan Kohberger, Nasen Saadi.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep seeing this sort of sentiment everywhere and I'm trying to understand it. The same thing happened after Charlie Kirk was killed and the arrest there hinged on a confession by the killer to his dad. A lot of commentary then that the police/FBI got lucky. Ditto Mangione. They got lucky he was found in a random McDonalds. What exactly is the expectation here? Is there some sort of wide-spread belief that the worl…

The sentiment is basically that the "all hands on deck" manpower effort is futile and if anything even a political/propaganda effort to dissuade others from having similar thoughts. What good is it to mobilize 1000 FBI agents if they aren't going to move the case forward at all? What good is having a budget capable of mobilizing that many people for a single case and not to bear any fruit with it? Is this outcome bet…

It’s easy to criticize a police investigation after the suspect has been caught. But in the moment, none of the responding officers had a clue what they were walking into. Brown is a large campus in a strongly residential neighbourhood with many hiding spots; and people were ordered to shelter in place.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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The thing that bothers me about the whole story, apart from the deaths of course, is that we live in a surveillance state. While I want major crimes to be resolved and there to be deterrents to future ones, I just don't know about turning the whole US into East Germany. It's not going to work out well for any of us. As you can see, it didn't help solve the crimes, either. It was witnesses who did all the heavy liftin…

> As you can see, it didn't help solve the crimes, either. It was witnesses who did all the heavy lifting here.

That is not the case. If there was more high quality footage with a clearer resolution and full coverage to the time the suspect went to the car, then it would have been trivial to locate them without a witness.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sentiment is basically that the "all hands on deck" manpower effort is futile and if anything even a political/propaganda effort to dissuade others from having similar thoughts. What good is it to mobilize 1000 FBI agents if they aren't going to move the case forward at all? What good is having a budget capable of mobilizing that many people for a single case and not to bear any fruit with it? Is this outcome bet…

Half of life is collective "give a damn". If you see 1000 FBI agents, read 47 headlines, and hear a dozen gas station conversations then you start to tune in. That's when the tips start coming in, as everyone wants to be part of the big "thing".

A lot of fiction will be generated too

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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post #102

Another shooting with random or unclear motives, which conveniently fits an anti-immigrant narrative, also conveniently tied up with a bow... Don't get too caught up in the specifics of the spectacle, and take a long view of really weird coincidence.

Is there really much of an anti-immigrant narrative here?

The Trump administration has suspended the green card lottery program, using this murder as an excuse.

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In my country if the police is really serious, and I mean national crisis level of serious, they can go full China and track everyone. They have the means. Like presumably the US has doorbell camera databases and every car on the highway is electronically flagged?

Flock is around but it’s not as prevalent as some would want you to believe. At least not yet. Ring cameras and other cameras still require warrant. Same for the data that Flock collects

It depends where you are. most cities in the US have them everywhere now

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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post #96

Obviously a lot of footage in investigations does not reach the public, during active ones or even after. But if you've followed these stories it seems liket between the Brown shooting and the Kirk/Utah shooting, there is a potential concern with universities not having security footage in certain areas of their campus? Has anyone else inquired more into this?

Well, Candace Owens and Valhalla VFT are talking about exactly those things and the MSM is saying their concerns are baseless. I can't believe I actually watched Candace Owens discuss some of this stuff, I shudder to write that.

Owens is unhinged. She's also claiming the French government are trying to have her killed because she's claiming their first lady is secretly transgender. It's not just the "MSM" who are pointing out she has no credibility, it's also people like Ben Shapiro from her same corner of the media.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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I work on campus (very very close to the engineering building) and I previously lived near Brookline. So all of this hits home. But what got me was the tipster who blew wide open the case is reportedly a homeless Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building (a la South Korean film Parasite). It made me so sad but also not surprised, that building does have a single occupancy bathroom with show…

My assumption is most Ivy leaguers (specifically undergrads) generally have no monetary constraints after graduating so this very much reads to me as a bohemian “by choice” decision to be more interesting than an actual tragic story.

Your assumption is ignorant.

Most Ivy League schools have free tuition if your parents household income is below $200-$100k and full ride room and board if below $100-60k.

Rich kids can get cut off from their parents.

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