Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

statepress.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 86 posts

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#41

Post by xp84 »

DrewADesign wrote: post #17
SoftTalker wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strangely we used to think nothing of paying for a daily newspaper (which also contained ads) and many people subscribed to news magazines as well.

Yeah. This is the tech world making everything better. Sure the news is biased, poorly-written garbage, but you can have a lot of it, instantly, for like no money!

The Internet is not devoid of good quality media. Yes, some of it you have to pay for. The free papers we had before the Internet were never bastions of great journalism (though I'll admit that national TV news once was once pretty decent, and free).

And all news is biased. The only thing is, you can only see the bias towards your ideological enemies. When it's your bias, it's called "the truth."

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#42

Post by xp84 »

ipaddr wrote: post #24
SoftTalker wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strangely we used to think nothing of paying for a daily newspaper (which also contained ads) and many people subscribed to news magazines as well.

Have you tried going back 80% ap articles, some opinion columns, classifieds and sports with a lifestyle section. We are living in an era of more news, different formats more in depth. I think our expectations are misaligned we expect everything to be one click away and social media to present it to us in a doom scroll. The articles shared just here on hn you would never find in a newspaper. If you are lucky you disc…

I read the newspaper, just like you described, in the 90s and 2000s as a kid. It was really interesting and valuable. Honestly, yeah, that sounds amazing.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#43

Post by codeddesign »

bc3 wrote: post #28
codeddesign wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

This is inherently political. The "revised priorities" are clearly because of our current economic and political climate. Your comment is intentionally obtuse or malicious.

[flagged]

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#44

Post by Braxton1980 »

chasil wrote: post #36
slantedview wrote: post #25

It's no coincidence that at a time of eroding democracy, public journalism is being cut.

At the same time, even with the mayhem of the current executive, it is important to read the room. The house of representatives controls the budget. Moderating perceived bias would be an obvious survival strategy. Edit: Oh, drat, I've been ostracized. Whatever will I do?

>Moderating perceived bias would be an obvious survival strategy.

>Oh, drat, I've been ostracized. Whatever will I do?

Because you seemed to think the issue was the lack of reason when it's actually the reason itself.

Also, the government acting on perception instead of evidence is horrible.

In my opinion the claims of bias at PBS were done to keep the core Republican voter base energized. They've been told to not trust the media while Trump appoints multiple Foxnews employees to high level positions in the government.

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#45

Post by Braxton1980 »

meltyness wrote: post #40
DrewADesign wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People shouting about PBS news being horribly biased are just flat-out wrong. Obviously their viewership leans centrist liberal, but no other news program in recent times approached their level of nonpartisanship when dealing with national politics. Regardless of their affiliation, they’d ask most interviewees a couple of pointed questions but always let them explain themselves uninterrupted, and let them have the la…

The first half is usually solid, the back half is, well, usually more opinionated/softer. Lots of interviews with professors who seek to have their opinions represented as facts or members of the public have their plight elevated as serious national policy concerns.

>professors who seek to have their opinions represented as facts

How do they do that and how do you know it's their intent?

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#46

Post by chasil »

DrewADesign wrote: post #19
slicedice wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It got cut.

People shouting about PBS news being horribly biased are just flat-out wrong. Obviously their viewership leans centrist liberal, but no other news program in recent times approached their level of nonpartisanship when dealing with national politics. Regardless of their affiliation, they’d ask most interviewees a couple of pointed questions but always let them explain themselves uninterrupted, and let them have the la…

What?

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#47

Post by every »

DrewADesign wrote: post #19
slicedice wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It got cut.

People shouting about PBS news being horribly biased are just flat-out wrong. Obviously their viewership leans centrist liberal, but no other news program in recent times approached their level of nonpartisanship when dealing with national politics. Regardless of their affiliation, they’d ask most interviewees a couple of pointed questions but always let them explain themselves uninterrupted, and let them have the la…

PBS and NPR have long been my go-to sources for news. Very much in the classic "who, what, when and where" vein. Editorial content is small, segregated and usually includes advocates for both sides. Blissfully boring and informative...

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#48

Post by chasil »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #44
chasil wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the same time, even with the mayhem of the current executive, it is important to read the room. The house of representatives controls the budget. Moderating perceived bias would be an obvious survival strategy. Edit: Oh, drat, I've been ostracized. Whatever will I do?

>Moderating perceived bias would be an obvious survival strategy. >Oh, drat, I've been ostracized. Whatever will I do? Because you seemed to think the issue was the lack of reason when it's actually the reason itself. Also, the government acting on perception instead of evidence is horrible. In my opinion the claims of bias at PBS were done to keep the core Republican voter base energized. They've been told to not tr…

Right. Posted below, but this is clear as reported by their own.

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

Re: PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract

#49

Post by codeddesign »

trial3 wrote: post #32
codeddesign wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

what are the revised priorities? what revised the priorities? maybe consider doing just the teensiest bit of journalism of your own

That part is fairly easy to understand with a few google searches. Journalism programs are at a loss across the country and have been in decline for some time. When a university program is not profitable they close the program.

Low wages, less employment opportunity, and the decrease in interest of writing. Combine this with social media and the age of influencers - you suddenly have a huge decline across the board.

Journalism is not what you see on tv. Those are essentially actors and are the 1%. The rest are those writing in newspapers (in decline) and making barely livable wages with most on contract rather than salary. It’s an incredibly difficult line of work when it comes to wages and job security.

Post reply on HN